Inept moderators have caused thousands of good Christians to leave r/Christianity

LouIchthys · 2012-05-25T03:16:52.887237+00:00

So telling you things explicitly doesn't work. Good to know. No one needs to waste time with you here anymore do they?

LouIchthys · 2012-05-25T01:29:20.899532+00:00

You know what, I've got another couple of mods right now getting on my case for moderating too much, I've got you saying I'm not moderating enough, I've got the community policy which I moderate according to regardless of you or them. I have had my fill of your nonsense. If you want to act so often in ways detrimental to healthy discourse you'll find your posting privileges revoked. Not for criticizing moderators or how we moderate but because frankly I can't see anything other than a really irritating Poe in you out to make Christians look like a bunch of petulant fanatics who freak out about the smallest of grievances. Use the report button if you want us to mod something and understand that we may or may not agree with you. When I get your commentary on something all I want to do is forget I ever wasted time reading something that used so many words to say so little and it greatly impacts my capacity for objectivity with regards to you. Everything you write to us is accusatory and generally baseless.

Take it up with the other mods if you want even more moderation.

LouIchthys · 2012-05-24T21:00:31.860276+00:00

Sure. If it's moderator stuff the quickest way to get a mod's attention is to click the "Message the moderators" link on the sidebar.

LouIchthys · 2012-05-24T20:54:09.637875+00:00

Thanks :) We appreciate the feedback.

LouIchthys · 1 day

Swearing isn't against the rules. Why? Because we're adults. Look I'd prefer that people avoided swearing and I'd prefer people avoided many other things. I've removed posts which were nothing but swearing and the reason why is that they detract from conversation and create an environment in which the ability to achieve healthy recourse is retarded. Occasional swearing does not impede discussion and in some cases it may highlight an emotional aspect that is otherwise lost in text.

We still remove image macros but we won't pretend we see them all and on that rule there are aspects of it which are poorly defined. Not all images are barred either. This is one which we will typically enforce based more on the spirit than the static text of the rule.

Also, what are the automated tools we have available? I'd love to have some degree of automation.

And lastly, if you dislike it, leave. We aren't going to upend our moderation policies and practices based on a disgruntled user who spent years trolling the rest of reddit as LouF and in doing so negatively impacting this subreddit.

LouIchthys · 1 day

We will not take that route.

LouIchthys · 1 day

Check out r/atheism in archive.org when they had a subscriber base similar to ours and see if there is a qualitative difference. I think there is, but I haven't checked the web archives for this.

TheSpineFucker · 1 day

And next time you decide it would be cool to use the F word in a Christian forum, please shove that icepick into your skull first.

LouIchythys, that is way over the line.

thenorthwinddothblow · 1 day

Edit: Nevermind. I didn't realize I was interacting with a 1 say old troll account.

Nope.

wskrs · 1 day

You just said men shouldn't care about their children.

Think what you are saying through in the future.

thenorthwinddothblow · 1 day

You made it sound like these things were happening all the time, and were the main points of the submission.

No, I said it happened regularly. There's a difference. I'm obviously dealing with someone who has difficulty reading. try r/hookedonphonics.

...killing Christians seems reasonable until we even out the count.

The difference between you and me is that behavior like that isn't something I defend whether it is sourced from a Christian or an atheist. You however are happy to defend it so long as it comes from an atheist.

Because it refutes your points. Thank you for ceding.

No it's because you were unable to address points without being an idiot. Preferring to not engage an idiot in his idiocy doesn't grant an idiot a 'win'.

Referring? Please provide a citation for that image. Referring does nothing when backing up your claim.

Scientism. Basically universally mocked in academia.

You provided no evidence to what I originally asked evidence for. Deal with it yourself. You made the statement which is now blatantly obvious you have no capability of providing proof towards.

You're acting as though the truth of it is determined by reddit's crappy search engine and the propensity for /r/atheism to use images rather than plain text or my lack of foresight in not keeping track of submissions like that which I'd frankly rather not even see.

Now feel free to rage impotently some more.

outsider · 2 days

Thank you :)

ZestyNuggets · 2 days

Read our community policy as well as our sidebar. Note the parts about crossposting. When you do that you will not be allowed to participate.

thenorthwinddothblow · 2 days

I thought I was clear in asking for a citation to back that claim up. You simply failed to produce one.

You're right, I provided several.

Ignoring the rest of your grandstanding...

I quite simply asked you to provide a citation for a claim you made, you could not. Im sorry you are limited in your search capabilities. But at this point, I just don't believe you. There is no proof you have provided to back up your claim. Sorry!

I gave several which showed essentially the same thing and did end up referring you to the image by the text in it. And I did provide evidence that such things happen. Deal with it. You're arguing not the binary of if it but the degree of it.

ZestyNuggets · 2 days

Nope. Don't get to participate here like that.

thenorthwinddothblow · 2 days

But you said this happened "pretty regularly". But I guess not regularly enough to have made it past a year? Nor can you find any other citation to support your claim.

I thought I had been clear that it is something that used to happen and that has milded out. I'm not sure how there is confusion about that.

So that can only mean shooting? I'm sorry, but that's kind of a weak argument and does not support your "the only good Christians are dead Christians" claim.

You know I did quote the OP there saying to shoot people right? You also know I quoted a post which said specifically that "the only good Christians are dead Christians" right? I don't understand why I can write something specifically and you ignore it, instead focusing on something other than what I wrote.

Looks like he obviously didn't mean it, and why you would purposefully leave that comment out and act like he's advocating death baffles me. That's quite a stretch. And I'm pretty sure a fallacy as well.

It isn't a fallacy to quote something a person said. As for obviously not meaning it? That's not as simple an argument as it could have been if he wasn't advocating for more aggression and violence. As it is you're going from challenging the notion that it has or hasn't happened to trying to say it isn't so bad in some cases.

I noticed you said they were older.

So exactly why were you acting so dense about it?

So that's a 'NO' then on being able to offer a citation. Ok. Well, I'm sorry you could not provide any proof to back up that claim.

Um, I did in fact show people saying those things. Or are you taking issue with the fact that I don't have a bunch of links of things which occurred 2 or so years ago? The text on the image was like 'Christian Disposal' or something like that. Or that they occurred primarily by mediums which don't lend themselves to searching? I could have with more ease shown rape jokes directed at 15 year olds though that gets excused more than I can tolerate. In the mean time whether you doubt me or not has nothing to do with the truth but an obvious flaw in scientism when presented with a limitation in a technology.

thenorthwinddothblow · 2 days

I dont see any of those pictures in your links :/

Perhaps that is why I explained the deficiency in reddit's search being limited to a year and also the timeframe that these things occurred in.

I dont really think a downvoted troll comment means anything either.

That was the OP who was calling for atheists to be assholes to theists. He was actually saying that his fellow atheists should turn up their aggression.

Do you have any actual citations that justify your comment above?

I think before I attempt to move further I'd prefer that you demonstrate that you can read what is written ¹ instead of what you think is written.

¹ They're a bit older than ayear and probably closer to 2 years old. Part of the reason why reddit admins had made /r/atheism a non-default subreddit for awhile. Within the time that reddit search allows for however:

thenorthwinddothblow · 2 days

Hmm... only two threads and, in each of them, the offending comments are downvoted. That doesn't seem to be a regular occurrence or a popular sentiment to me.

I think you should go back and read what I wrote ^1, that you responded to, and note that I was talking about it in the past and not current tense. I know 2 years ago and today can be a tricky concept but I really hope you try to understand the difference.

¹ They're a bit older than ayear and probably closer to 2 years old. Part of the reason why reddit admins had made /r/atheism a non-default subreddit for awhile. Within the time that reddit search allows for however:

funny_original_name · 2 days

The Bible should only be read as historical fiction.

Among other things...

Haven't you been trolling here long enough? You must have missed that we have a community policy. It's linked to on the right. I'll assume you've read it at all points in the future.

thenorthwinddothblow · 2 days

http://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/tz2qv/what_might_rchristianity_look_like_if_it_were_the/c4r63gp

thenorthwinddothblow · 2 days

They're a bit older than ayear and probably closer to 2 years old. Part of the reason why reddit admins had made /r/atheism a non-default subreddit for awhile.

Within the time that reddit search allows for however:

http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/dhwii/as_an_atheist_it_bothers_me_that_more_atheists/ Which even had some inwardly directed aggression by dVnt "I'd rather shoot idiot atheists like you first..."

or

"I can go for shooting all theists. Some things just have to be rooted out somehow."

You're free of course to make excuses why that's OK. I probably won't agree with them but you can do it.

"The only good Christian is a dead Christian. :)"

Posts like that aren't as rare as some would have you believe.

There actually were some recently as well but they are recent enough where people can still vote on them.

thenorthwinddothblow · 3 days

r/atheism has actually gotten milder I think. They used to post pictures which said basically that the only good Christians are dead Christians pretty regularly.

n0t_5hure · 3 days

This has what to do with Christianity?

xindierockx7114 · 3 days

Shut up. Thanks.

That was a stupid response.

sharkiest · 3 days

Enamelware is better for acidic foods like tomatoes than plain cast-iron.

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