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jason_w87 · 5 days

i see that. people would rather link to songs that have been out that millions of people have already heard. i get it.

jason_w87 · 2 months

Yes but you can't interact with anyone. You could however travel to any point in the universe instantly.

jason_w87 · 4 months

The only way they would've figured it out is if either A) one of the receivers at the house had some kind of connectivity to the outside world, either phone or internet. The receivers can communicate with each other through the wiring of the house about status etc.. Or B) the dish that he connected the receiver to at the office had another box on it hooked up to a phone or internet line. Or i guess a 3rd possibility would be that he himself connected the receiver at the office to something and in turned gave away it's physical location.

Aside from some kind of connection, the dishes aren't capable of sending any information back up to Directv for them to be able to take notice of such a change.

jason_w87 · 5 months

C-Band dishes- The programming used to be free. You had to purchase the dish and receiver and wire it in. Was very expensive but state of the art in it's time. You could get oodles of channels. Slowly the channels started getting pulled one by one until there wasn't much left.

I actually have run into customers still using it. The most recent was about a year ago. I was in the basement and verified that I could cut the lines to the dish with the owner... right after I cut the power and adjustment wire the owner came down and said to wait! He wanted to move turn the dish before I cut it so he didn't have to mow around it..

Not too many of those still being used though now, the installation is free for the new service.

Honestly compared to having to spend 10,000 dollars to use satellite versus paying 30-40 bucks a month with free installation now.. it's amazing people still bitch about the particulars.

jason_w87 · 5 months

For Dish you would need at least 2 lines coming from the point where you would want the antenna. With Direct you would only need one because they use SWM (Single Wire Multi-Switch) technology which bandstacks the signals on to the cable allowing up to 8 receivers on one line from the antenna. You definitely want home runs to each room from a central location if possible, although in your case it doesn't sound attainable. But If you daisy chain from room to room and put splitters in the wall you will be regretting it later. You could try cat5 conversion but I haven't played with it much, not sure how well it would work- especially with Directv.

Use only braid swept RG6 Solid Copper cable. Usually swept to 3ghz is fine, Dish will work on less. The signals really only go up to about 2150 at their highest point. Make sure not to put copper clad in though.

Your longest run from the antenna to a receiver would be maybe 150-200 ft max. You can get by with more with in line amps but avoid it if possible.

Dish will have whole home dvr soon which should work with rg 59 rg 6 or cat5 lines. I'll know more about that in May!

Hope this helps

jason_w87 · 5 months

Probably a 3000 or 4000 Echostar. Either way running 2 rooms for no extra charge is a big benefit of Direct.. So you save money that way.. and most people we install are fine with having a 3rd tv mirrored off of the second and getting an extra remote.. So they get 3 or sometimes 4 rooms hooked up for no extra charge.

jason_w87 · 5 months

No, you are completely wrong. I don't mean we don't profit from hooking up new customers, I'm saying Dish doesn't right away. We don't collect any money from the customers. The only thing Dish collects is the first month payment, which is usually less than $50.00.

We get a base incentive for each customer we sign up, and then additional compensation for good credit, dvr, auto pay stuff like that. By the time it's all said and done we can make 5-600 dollars on an install. Whatever my cost was for that sale (usually 100-150 per sale) and the cost to have my installer put the job in (minimum 120) comes out of the incentives. Plus overhead to run the store, shipping all that stuff. Some jobs we make little to no profit because the customer doesn't have good credit or cancels their service, doesn't pay the bill... we are responsible for it up to a year afterwards.

But altogether on the Dish side of things (meaning the corporation, not us- we are an independant retailer) they have a long time before they make up the incentives the pay out. Usually at least a year by the time you factor in their cost.

But yes we profit from doing the work. And Dish and Directv eventually do.. just not right away.

jason_w87 · 5 months

When it is booting hit 02468 and it will update the software. Could be defective though.. could have bad signal. Hard to say without seeing it.

jason_w87 · 5 months

I haven't worked with them yet. We have a big MDU setup to do next month and I am just getting started with Multiband. I know they control a lot of the details regarding commercial accounts, which stinks but if you want MDU equipment apparently they are the ones to go through.. i'll update you after I've had a chance to work with them more.

jason_w87 · 5 months

It is the exact opposite with us getting paid. We can do a job on Monday and be paid by Friday. Also they pay about 20-30 percent more than Direct and also better residuals, by far. It can be tricky because you have to pay real close attention that you are getting paid for everything you are supposed to. Sometimes a payment will be spread over 2-3 cycles and if you aren't watching it sometimes they go missing. But mostly they take great care of us. Last year at the Dish convention they gave every single retailer that attended 2500 dollars to spend on new tablets for the sales app that Dish developed. They are committed to us and making sure we are successful. They go to greater lengths to ensure we are able to succeed as dealers. Can't honestly say why they would take so long to pay companies such as yours.

jason_w87 · 5 months

It also can generate an RA code to the company in the case of potential hardware failure (mostly Dvr units) It can also send a code if signals are low.. I've been called to a house before where a customer had enough signal to not realize anything was wrong.. but the signals were close to causing an outage. They sent me out before the customer even knew there was an issue and we fixed it so they didn't have an interuption. Very good benefit of having a line connected. Also you can pay your bill from your remote, play games, order content etc..

So it definitely isn't pointless. Mostly they want the phone line connected to verify the receiver is where it should be- not at your cottage or second home etc..

With the new content available from Blockbuster- having broadband connected allows you to stream movies straight through your receiver.

jason_w87 · 5 months

Sweet! I never have to with winegard! Do you guys have anything that would be comparable to Dish's tailgater price and functionality wise? I get a lot of customer looking for permanent rv mounts but they are so expensive.

jason_w87 · 5 months

Honestly I don't have a good answer for you. Hope you can find out. www.satelliteguys.us is a great knowledge base of professionals that could chime in on it if you post to their forum.

jason_w87 · 5 months

Call the Dash line (the number technicians use) 1-866-688-3274 You will get a friendly american rep knowledgeable about these problems in under 2 minutes if you tell the system you are a technician. Best route to get it resolved.

jason_w87 · 5 months

In a perfect world a retro deck would be used every time.. But they take much longer to mount and properly install.. also they are expensive. I have never had a roof mount leak in 4 years of installing. We use a rubber tar membrane, wrap our lag bolts with it as well as undercoat the mast with it.. when the lags penetrate the roof they pull the membrane with it creating a seal.. on top of that we silicone around the lags at the top. Never had one leak. So yes a roof mount is proper.. except the mast must be centered on a joist so that the center lags are biting into solid wood not obc board. If none of the lags grab any solid material, the dish will eventually work itself loose and cause signal loss / damage to the roof.

jason_w87 · 5 months

No not without a receiver that has authorized programming.

jason_w87 · 5 months

Well, I'm not betting on it.. eventually the government will stimulate suburban areas with money to install new infrastructure.. But that is a long ways away. Wild Blue's new configuration is much more reliable and also you can get 12mb down 3 up. It will be a long time before telco's are offering that anywhere outside of metro or small city areas. Especially in Central Wisconsin.

Where are you from?

jason_w87 · 5 months

Could be a line issue or something else affecting the data feed. If you reboot your receiver and press 02468 while it is booting it will do a software update and that may fix the issue. I know the hr24's have been having issues.

jason_w87 · 5 months

I'm not just a technician.. I own an independent dealership.. which gives me all the responsibility of Dish themselves in the eyes of customers. Also this IS an AMA so I'm pretty sure he's good to ask me whatever he wants!

jason_w87 · 5 months

Technically you should get it for free. Both companies provide standard professional installation for free, which would include a pole mount if necessary. There is no benefit to having it on the roof versus the ground unless you don't want to mow around it.. other than that I prefer ground mounts. We do them for free.

If you decide to jump on it let me know! I can still place the order and have dispatch come out and do it even though you don't live nearby. At that point I'd be able to make special notes on your account to ensure it gets done correctly for no extra charge.

jason_w87 · 5 months

Some space is leased.. some of the satellites are owned. Everything is situated in the clark belt which is the belt of satellites above the equator where the orbital slots are located. Dish uses 72, 77 and 61.5 and also 110,119 and 129 mostly (among others) Direct primarily uses 99,101, and 103. Each orbital slot consists of a fleet of satellites that provide service. So people call it satellite 110 but technically it is orbital slot 110 with multiple satellites in it.

Some of the satellites are owned by Dish and Direct and other companies. They actually at one point in the past shared space on some of the satellites.

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