SAVE: June is False Allegation Awareness Month

avoiceformen · 1 day

It's just sad to see a protective instinct that most people have turned into a mechanism of control.

BINGO. That would be the precise point I was making in the article.

Case in point, you don't know if your friend was sexually assaulted or that the man she accused did anything wrong at all. You only have what you have been told. You may have every reason to believe her, but that is not a justification for grabbing a baseball bat. The accused is entitled to be handled by law enforcement, and supposedly to a fair trial to determine if he was guilty.

You don't get to change that because you feel for your friend. At least, you are not supposed to because it is a threat to a society that is governed by the rule of law.

So in your case, had you followed through, you would rightly be considered a criminal, deserving of prosecution. You came close to turning your protective instinct into an illegal and immoral mechanism of control.

I also note that you mentioned nothing about the alleged rapist being prosecuted. I find that interesting.

avoiceformen · 1 day

Translation. Too dishonest, lie too much.

avoiceformen · 1 day

Oh, and please provide your hard data that women evaluate men financially. Thanks in advance for the link.

avoiceformen · 1 day

Isn't that exactly what the article is saying?

avoiceformen · 1 day

If you read that as witty, by all means enjoy. I guess that can pass for witty if what you are doing passes for an argument.

Fact is, offering opinions in an opinion piece is pretty standard practice in the real world. You can find literally thousands of pieces of opinion work across the planet every day that don't cite research on their opinions.

It leave it up to the reader to decide if it fits their experience. If it doesn't, they don't buy it. And since this doesn't fit your experience it obviously doesn't work for you.

But lo and behold, there is more to the world than you.

avoiceformen · 1 day

So you are saying that the act of offering physical protection has nothing to do with how the sexes are socialized, that women are as prone as men to extract physical revenge on those who assault? That wives are as prone as men to get out of bed and see what goes bump in the night?

Really?

Of course, you were 30 seconds away from a baseball bat and playing Bufford Pusser. Hate to tell you, a lot more men don't let the clock stop on them.

avoiceformen · 1 day

I say those things because they represent my experience with both men and women, and because they are consistent with matters I see documented in other ways.

Of course I don't have statistics on this. I don't have statistics that prove women evaluate men based on income, or that men evaluate women based on physical appearance. Do I need a study to cite before I can make those assertions, too?

You're not making any cogent objection, and not making any good points at all. And that is why I can't take you seriously.

avoiceformen · 1 day

To protect a victim? Who are these people protecting after an assault happens?

At least be more honest. You are supporting vigilantism and revenge, not rule of law and justice. And that interest has nothing to do with protecting anyone.

avoiceformen · 7 days

I am well aware of problems with people using the police for coercion.

Immigration fraud related to VAWA is a huge problem. U Visa does nothing to prevent it, which is why there is an effort for change here.

http://www.saveservices.org/2012/05/hr-4970-includes-measures-to-reduce-vawa-immigration-fraud/

I don't care how many people immigrate here, but when the system is so broken that people are finding loopholes by making false accusations, something needs to give, and it should not be the poor schmucks getting accused so a woman can get a green card.

The GLBT community can do what it wants. Some of them are at AVfM trying pushing to get this shitty law rewritten.

avoiceformen · 7 days

I want to be able to vote for representatives who support men's rights and who are pro-choice, in favor of gay marriage, etc.

Name one.

avoiceformen · 7 days

The only immigrants facing deportation after reporting domestic assault would be those here illegally. That makes them aliens, not immigrants, and the current system provides them a loophole around immigration law at the expense of innocent US Citizens.

The "incentives" you are speaking about are at the cost of due process for the accused.

The GLBT community has legitimate concerns about VAWA. Let them take that up with the gender ideologues that insisted on channeling monies that only address the issues of primarily heterosexual women, the "preferred customers" of the DV industry.

They might also consider thanking SAVE for pushing a bill that attempts to address the gender bias that hit the GLBT community almost as hard as it hit men.

avoiceformen · 8 days

I hear you. I didn't read your comment either. What a laugh.

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