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[–]CheesyGoodnessFoxFire/Linskee Expert 94 points95 points ago

"Golly gee, Mr. X, we're working on the problem as fast as we can...in the meantime, be assured that we will be monitoring your traffic in an attempt to get to the root of the issue, if you have any questions about the sites you've been visiting, be sure to contact us immediately!"

[–]StabbyPants 7 points8 points ago

"if you have any questions about the sites you've been visiting, just email anyone at all"

FTFY

[–]toastedbutts 62 points63 points ago

Send him a tiny violin and an ethernet cable.

[–]SanityInAnarchy 25 points26 points ago

As a side note, the reason his Internet is so crappy is because he is living in a building that was built well over 50 years ago and is essentially a Faraday Cage with wire mesh in the walls.

Which still sucks -- IIRC, people in Helser ($5 says I'm a student at the same university) complain about the wired Ethernet being just as bad. Seems decent over in Roberts, but still not great -- but I'm spoiled by 100 mbit fiber at home.

Assuming this is the same university, when I first came here in '05, service generally sucked -- I seem to remember writing support and getting a form letter back. Dropped out, came back five years later, and now, the network may not always be reliable (solid brick buildings with ancient wiring is problematic), but the service is pretty much golden when you actually can fix something: Write a simple email ("nmbd on this Linux machine seems to somehow be eating tens of gigabytes of RAM!"), get a simple reply ("Not sure how that happened, but I killed and restarted it. Let me know if it does it again.") This isn't just because I used jargon, either: "I can print from this machine, but not that one." Email comes back: "You logged into the wrong domain on that one. Try this other domain."

No back and forth of me trying to escalate stuff, just problem, solution, done. Well done, sirs and/or ma'ams.

[–]ameyer505If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong![S] 11 points12 points ago

If you go to a state school in the midwest known for corn then yes we are talking about the same school haha

And we try to provide the best support we can with the limited resources we are available, just being students ourselves we are not given admin rights over the infrastructure just over registration and stuff like that.

[–]SanityInAnarchy 10 points11 points ago

Sounds like it is the same school. I was a little hesitant, figured you blacked it out for a reason...

In at least one of the cases I mentioned, someone either had root on that machine, or was able to very quickly escalate it to someone else who had root (without any back-and-forth with me). So whatever happened to that email once it hit the 'solution' address, it was pretty much invisible to me as a user -- I just saw competence.

Then again, email is printed, then photographed, then uploaded to imgur? There has to be a story behind that...

[–]ameyer505If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong![S] 8 points9 points ago

It involves the fact that we (as IT employees) like to keep emails that we can look back on and laugh about and I figured it gave it a little more authenticity

[–]PeabodyJFranklin 2 points3 points ago

I didn't attend that school, but one of my friends did. He was there in fall 00, and he and his roommate ran a public Hotwire server (anyone remember that?) from their dorm. This was back before online gaming was big, before the internet was as necessary as it is now, and also when dorm users at ISU got public IPs (I'm thinking that's no longer the case). They would max out their 10mbit LAN card solid for extended periods. This was on top of the massive LAN sharing that went on there, thanks to the tracker/search engine that would index any available SMB shares.

Back then, a 10mbit connection was nothing to complain about. Actually, compared to the 1.5mbit cable internet available at home, it was smokin! Nowadays, folks would cry bloody murder if you told them that's all they get. Though really, it's not so bad for an internet connection, if you get a solid 10Mb, but LAN transfers suck if that's all your connection is.

[–]ameyer505If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong![S] 2 points3 points ago

Ahh the good ole days lol, I wasn't around for the Hotwire days that was well before my time here but I have heard stories from around that time and yur right if someone was getting 10 Mbps over wireless they get all sorts of pissed off...

Also you are still able to get public IP's from ISU, you just gotta know who to ask, but by default you're right they are all NAT'd

[–]calmlunatic 12 points13 points ago

Gotta love OSI Layer 8 support.

[–]Lord_DreadlowHeadset Hero 7 points8 points ago

Apparently, layer 8 issues can be fixed with a cattle prod.

[–]jimmy_three_shoesMobile Device? Schmoblie Schmemice. 7 points8 points ago

"Sir, this problem seems to be an ID10-T error caused by Layer 8 on the OSI model. I'm going to have to classify this as a PEBKAC."

[–]blueskinBastard Operator From Pandora 2 points3 points ago

A cattle prod or some percussive maintenance.

[–]BigChinaManID-10-T error support 38 points39 points ago

I'd eat some spinach, down some Amp, pump some iron, don some sunglasses then go to the kids dorm room and say to him "I am here...to kick some ass and fix networking problems. And it looks like your network is not going to be fixed any time soon"

[–]mwerteSounds easy, right? It would be, except for the users. 59 points60 points ago

I say you use some nice MAC filtering to mess with him like this

[–]Daedalus256Has nervous breakdowns every 3 months 1 point2 points ago

In college I used to randomly block my roommates MAC. Any time my roommate pissed me off, I'd block his MAC and his PS2's MAC. Often times he would play Socom online until 3 or 4 in the morning when I had class at 8 and he wasn't very quiet about it. Any time I needed sleep, I'd block him. Any time he was a dick, I'd block him. The best is when he'd walk up to me and ask if the internet was working and I'd just reply "Yeah man, works fine here, must be something with your PS2" and laugh as he walked away.

[–]mwerteSounds easy, right? It would be, except for the users. 0 points1 point ago

Bwahahaha. Thats win!

[–]tallwookie 24 points25 points ago

reply to his email & explain that his dorm is older than his parents, and the wiring predates his grandparents.

[–]Pokemansparty 40 points41 points ago

They wouldn't get that. "WIRING DOESNT MATTER WITH WIRELESS YOU IDIOT" (s)he would probably respond.

[–]tallwookie 12 points13 points ago

solid concrete walls, I'd reply.

[–]pipo_the_clone 5 points6 points ago

Good guy tallwookie :o)

[–]Dead_Rooster 18 points19 points ago

You know this now leaves you with a new task to be completed first thing every morning right?

Changing his password without his knowledge.

[–]galorin 8 points9 points ago

Script it. Update with a 32 character string from /dev/urandom as a nightly cron job.

[–]slanketUnnecessarily Convoluted Official Title 2 points3 points ago

This kid is a little shit and I'm sure you're joking, but that could get you fired.

[–]mwerteSounds easy, right? It would be, except for the users. 1 point2 points ago

Only if he figures it out.

[–]slanketUnnecessarily Convoluted Official Title 5 points6 points ago

Or if someone looks at the logs. Either way, this little douchebag isn't worth risking your job over.

[–]CheesesOfNazareth 8 points9 points ago

I'd make sure this person's account got wiped periodically. But then I'm not a nice person.

[–]blueskinBastard Operator From Pandora 1 point2 points ago

That's what you do when they ask for more disk. For this, just blacklist their MAC address.

[–]yumenohikari 1 point2 points ago

That's what you do when they ask for more disk.

"What was your username again?"

[–]blueskinBastard Operator From Pandora 0 points1 point ago

Exactly.

[–]raider1v11 10 points11 points ago

this is an EXCELLENT time to respond back with the following:

Hi Friend!

I do apologize personally for your poor network performance while browsing www.awkwardfamilyphotos.com. I will be dispatching an entire team of technicians to give you a dedicated line to the world wide web. We will make sure you have no less than 100MB/s upload and download speeds. To ensure this guaranteed speed, we will be installing a traffic monitoring device on your personal, dedicated connection.

However, the added cost for this service will be added to your room at an added cost of $5,000.00 per month.

If you wish to continue with the unmonitored internet currently provided at a cost of $0.00 per month, please let us know.

Faithfully yours,

Ameyer505

[–]emmapearl 8 points9 points ago

My Help Desk manager won't even let us deal with tickets like this, or even abusive callers. What a shithead.

[–]ameyer505If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong![S] 5 points6 points ago

We weren't really supposed to, I just kind of did because well I'm graduating soon and it helped raise morale by giving everyone a laugh

[–]crest_ 6 points7 points ago

Set the ticket to feedback status because the user failed to properly describe his problem.

[–]porksandwich9113 5 points6 points ago

I work in the IT department for a University as well <-- (sorry this part of the comment is obligatory) but my point is that students don't realize how old the some of these buildings are and that trying to throw in technology from the 2000s and expecting it to all work is not some easy task. Hell, most of them are too stupid to keep their windows machines clean from viruses and malware so they just drop a fuckton of money on a mac..

Over half the buildings in my school predate the internet revolution, and honestly only a handful or them were built with internet connectivity specifically in mind.

However, as a student who works in IT I am also aware of how damn slow the university is at responding to repair requests and fixing issues like this. Earlier this year an entire dormitory lost internet connectivity due to a failed router. (this affected a good 250-300 students) It took over a damn week for them to replace the router in question even though it was really a job that took a few hours or a day at most. And at my University everything is online. You turn in papers online. You check your bill online. You pay your bill online. Your class syllabus is online. You drop and add classes online. (you get my drift)
We try to be a completely paperless campus - and when the net goes down, it really should be the highest of priorities to get back up.

[–]ameyer505If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong![S] 2 points3 points ago

That's a good point, it should be a top priority but at least at the campus I work at the IT departments are so decentralized that if someone calls in to report a network outage. I then have to pass it on to another person, who passes it on to another person, so on and so forth... And if you try to skip a step in there and say just contact a network engineer who could send a tech out to get it fixed you will get reprimanded, because no one wants to think their job is obsolete.

Lots of bureaucracy and red tape

[–]porksandwich9113 1 point2 points ago

Lots of bureaucracy and red tape

Yes, that is one thing I forgot to mention - red tape drives me nuts.

Often times when students have computer issues and I am not at work or I am doing homework in the lounge, I'll just sit down and spend the 15 minutes to fix whats going on, instead of them having to come in, fill out some papers, have their laptop sit in a queue (which can sometimes take up to 2+ weeks) then finally fix it - then they come pick it up, and we fucking bill them an hour of labor (45$) for the 15 minutes of work.

It drives me nuts...and if that is how the repair center works, I can't imagine how the higher ups (not student employees) have to deal with bigger issues like big routers going down.

[–]StabbyPants 1 point2 points ago

and then you get the RPI dorms from the mid 90s - daisy chained hubs so that, by the end of the chain you're better off with dialup.

[–]Afro_SamuraiTeenager with A+ who works for half your pay. 0 points1 point ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't hubs broadcast everything to everyone, allowing someone in the appropriate position on that chain to have all kinds of fun with a traffic sniffer?

[–]StabbyPants 0 points1 point ago

why yes they do. Also fun: collisions on a 10 segment chain of hubs.

[–]Afro_SamuraiTeenager with A+ who works for half your pay. 1 point2 points ago

Oh my. installs wireshark

[–]the_raptor 0 points1 point ago

/watches Wireshark crash from trying to capture hundreds of collisions a second.

[–]Afro_SamuraiTeenager with A+ who works for half your pay. 1 point2 points ago

Too broken to be exploited.

[–]pipo_the_clone 15 points16 points ago

This is unexceptable, unless you know the guy and he normally doesn't do such thing(we all huff and puff sometimes), you should get this filed and taken care off.

[–]ameyer505If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong![S] 25 points26 points ago

Trust me this was definitely forwarded onto our CIO, and this was sent to a IT Help desk email so this student had no idea who would be reading this...

[–]Askeee 16 points17 points ago

I can't help but feel bad for him, because we've all been in that position where shit isn't working right, and tech support is being useless for what ever reason, but at the same time, come on, what a fuckbag ಠ_ಠ

[–]daychildeYou are in a little twisty maze of passages, all alike. 10 points11 points ago

I can't help but feel bad for him

I can. Being a dick cancels out my caring. (I should note that this is in my private life. I currently do not provide paid support. When I'm paid to do support, I suck it up and try and calm the clients down while fixing the outstanding issues...)

[–]iamadogforreal 3 points4 points ago

This is dean of students material here.

[–]taytortotis it plugged in? 19 points20 points ago

unacceptable*

[–]dnicholsonb 7 points8 points ago

*of

[–]inibrius 19 points20 points ago

um no. Emails like this go to the dean of students as inappropriate conduct/verbal (written) abuse and the fucktard gets thrown out of the school. I guarantee that's a violation of the school's code of conduct if nothing else.

[–]absolutezero1287 3 points4 points ago

The good natured IT guy sees the rude complaint and thinks to himself, "well it looks like I'm free today".

[–]TrainFan 4 points5 points ago

"Someone who could do your job way better."

Correct response from IT: Please feel free to go ahead and do so.

[–]therealknewmanField Tech aka Cowboy 4 points5 points ago

love love love college students.

if it makes you feel any better, i had a pretty fantastic day.

[–]ameyer505If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong![S] 4 points5 points ago

Haha in a weird way it does, reminds me that good days are right around the corner

[–]matt314159PC FixIt Monkey 3 points4 points ago

Holy.... wow. Hope somebody smacks the prick down a peg or two.

[–]whlabratz 1 point2 points ago

priority--;

[–]thejewishgun 2 points3 points ago

ISU? Helser and Friley are probably the worst design for wireless. Can't the students still put their own routers in their rooms?

[–]ameyer505If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong![S] 5 points6 points ago

They can, but they need to put them on a different band than the wireless that's already there... Which no one does, which leads to even worse wireless Internet, which leads more people to put in un-configured personal routers... it's a vicious circle haha

[–]Lord_DreadlowHeadset Hero 3 points4 points ago

I think you found the real problem right here.......

[–]cwsterling 4 points5 points ago

yep, they should just ban them like my university. We have really decent wireless around the different dorms

[–]blueskinBastard Operator From Pandora 0 points1 point ago

My university technically didn't allow them in halls, but neither checked nor cared... and even provided TWO ethernet ports per (single person) room, so you coudl always pick up a multitude of wireless signals.

My current place is in an area with a lot of flats and there are even more different ones, 70-80% of them on the same three channels and with default SSIDs.

[–]PeabodyJFranklin 2 points3 points ago

Well duh, you have 2 people per room, you need 2 ports available!

per (single person) room

Oh...wow. That doesn't make much sense. Especially since with a router, you only need 1 port anyway.

[–]blueskinBastard Operator From Pandora 0 points1 point ago

Presumably, for desktop+laptop (no wireless in the actual building, hence why people set up their own). It was a single wall box with two ports built into it.

[–]UmbrellaCo 0 points1 point ago

Don't most routers default to the same band? Wouldn't the solution then be to change the school's routers to the different band?

[–]ameyer505If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong![S] 0 points1 point ago

See that would be smart, safe, and efficient and we just can't have that here haha... but idk why the school doesn't ban personal routers because they just cause more problems than they resolve

[–]UmbrellaCo 0 points1 point ago

Probably cause it would never be enforced, I know it wasn't when I was in college. But then again when I was in college my dorm didn't have wireless internet outside of the lobbies and study rooms of each dorm and floor. Now they do, but they limit it to two devices per account.

[–]ameyer505If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong![S] 0 points1 point ago

Oh I wish we had that limitation... We had people at the beginning of the year registering 8 or 9 devices per person. Our poor DHCP server ran out of leases and half of the dorm rooms on campus lost Internet for awhile all because people want everything they have to be connected right away.

[–]Lord_DreadlowHeadset Hero 2 points3 points ago

Up vote for cattle prods in IT.

[–]Pokemansparty 7 points8 points ago

I'd place the blame on his computer having old parts that are on the fringe. I think you need a new wireless adapter in your computer because no other user is reporting an issue. You see, blah blah blah using verbiage they won't understand to describe why it's likely his computer than the building. I did that all the time.

[–]marblefoot 2 points3 points ago

"In recent times, while great strides have been made bringing the 802.11g standard to the forefront as the primary and reliable source of wireless networking, there are still great obstacles to overcome. One such obstacle is throughput. Bandwidth searious drops once going through walls that are plenum-rated. You do realize Hesler is plenum-rated for your protection, correct? Arguably, you're living in the safest dorm on campus. Another point of contention, if you would like us to fix this problem, this would be a massive undertaking. A few hundred thousand dollars, in fact. Do you like paying the tuition you currecntly are paying? Imagine that increasing by 50%. That's the kind of capital required to....."

You get the idea. Like he/she's going to know that walls themselves can't be plenum-rated. May not even know the 802.11 standard. I'msure I could've put more, but I just woke up.

[–]Pokemansparty 2 points3 points ago

Yes! That is perfect. Except they'll retort with something like, "Are you hitting on me, asshole? How about i kick your ass." or something to prove he is cool

[–]swych 3 points4 points ago

I've never had anyone be so openly rude, but yeah, there are several "historical" buildings on my campus that are also shitty for wifi no matter what we do. Go sit in a student lounge or at the 4 Starbucks on campus or something and cry me a river!

[–]SanityInAnarchy 5 points6 points ago

Kind of hard to do that with a desktop. Not every student has or wants a laptop, and those of us which do, we still want our desktops at least kept up-to-date, if not, say, playing games.

Not saying it justifies the rudeness, and it's hard to imagine how IT can fix this, but it's not an idle complaint.

[–]swych 5 points6 points ago

I'm not suggesting that there isn't any sympathy, but these are students who write in multiple times a month when we've told them there is nothing we can legally do because the historical buildings' infrastructures can't be tampered with. Our ethernet is nearly 1TB. Plug it in with the cord we gave you and stop trying to play MW3 on wifi!

[–]McScreennameIT Exorcist 5 points6 points ago

Our ethernet is nearly 1TB.

Either you meant GB, or I'm jealous.

[–]SanityInAnarchy 5 points6 points ago

Seconded. Ethernet in our dorms runs at about 10mbit, elsewhere on campus is 100mbit. The wireless is legitimately faster if no one's using it, and given that the ethernet is 10mbit half-duplex, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was plugged into some ancient hub somewhere down the line (rather than a switch), meaning it's every bit as much a shared medium as the wifi. (I hope not, because if that's the case, I occasionally make someone's life hell with my bandwidth use.)

I still use ethernet, because it's less likely to be interrupted by, say, a microwave. It's not terrible -- usually low-latency, and I can usually saturate it.

[–]MindlessAutomataDread Security Nazi 6 points7 points ago

10 mbit half duplex

twitch

[–]marblefoot 3 points4 points ago

Yeah, evertime I help someone with wifi complaints, I always tell them, "It's always better to go wired, wireless is unreliable, insecure, and unstable-a mircowave could kick you off." (shock words, because I'm usualy mad at them and I want to dash their dreams of getting wifi in the furthest location away from anything and expect it to be golden).

My friends used to call me dream crusher because I will often times make claims like this because I'm mad.

[–]Enphuego 2 points3 points ago

I'd try manually setting the link speed to 100Mb full duplex. The switch may just suck at auto-negotiating.

[–]SanityInAnarchy 1 point2 points ago

Worth a try, but it's been this way in all the dorms at this university. In any case, something to save for the weekend. Right now it's plugged into a switch I have, so it's still some 10mbit to the rest of the world, but gigabit among the three machines in this room.

[–]Angry_Table_FlipperHave you tried turning it off and on again? 3 points4 points ago

And that moron is so... moronic he's provided written proof too.

/face-palm

[–]daychildeYou are in a little twisty maze of passages, all alike. 4 points5 points ago

Aww... here, have this table: ┬──┬ ¯_(ツ)

[–]MrDOSOh, I have to be near my computer for this? 6 points7 points ago*

While this is definitely an inappropriate way to address anyone in tech support, I must admit to feeling his pain – Wi-Fi at my university is bad, even where the buildings aren't made of concrete, and I feel some frustration is justified in an environment charging a >$100/student/semester “technology access fee”.

[–]Lord_DreadlowHeadset Hero 2 points3 points ago

Well, if the school is charging a “technology access fee”, the access should be of reasonable bandwidth. The money paid in by students should go to improving the WLAN infrastructure.

[–]BigChinaManID-10-T error support 1 point2 points ago

At my university, the Tech Fee actually justifies the expensive software (Maple, SPSS, etc.) students will need to download for their class + the annual enterprise AV license offered to students on campus. On my campus, we do what we can to try to improve our wireless, but whenever anyone (very recently rare now, more prominent a year or so back) pulls the Technology Fee card on us in regards to their internet access, we scoff and point them to their license software page and kindly ask them to try again.

tl;dr Tech Fees don't necessarily go towards wireless internet access.

[–]dghughes 2 points3 points ago

I work in a secure room it has cinder block walls that are filled with concrete and a heavy duty mesh grid surrounds the room and the door is steel, my cellphone dies in an hour or two.

The router I use is a Linksys WRT-54G with Tomato firmware. It's boosted to 110mw and I've played around with the settings, I can get two bars on my cellphone wifi 30m away.

[–]TheSilentWatcherTypes with Boxing Gloves on 1 point2 points ago

Interesting. I lived in the same dorm in question for two years and never had any internet problems that couldn't be fixed with a simple restart. Granted I did just run an ethernet cable along the wall, but it kept things consistent.

[–]X019IT=Indentured servanT 1 point2 points ago

Helser? So you're at ISU then? heh heh heh heh. Also, I don't like your internet too much.

[–]ameyer505If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong![S] -1 points0 points ago

I'm surprised at how many people from my college read TFTS :) but I will make sure to pass that complaint along haha

[–]echotech 1 point2 points ago

Invite him over to the office and see if he can fix it. Tell him he can have access to all the resources you have.

[–]ameyer505If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong![S] 1 point2 points ago

Oh I like this idea, could I still use the cattle prod when he says he can't fix it?? lol

[–]echotech 0 points1 point ago

Yes, of course. Plus you get to revoke his email sending rights forever.

[–]mrascii 0 points1 point ago

I would make sure that this student has crappy Internet for the rest of his time at the school, even as those around him get better and better service.

[–]Coldmode 1 point2 points ago

My last year in school they put an access point in every room or every other room depending on the construction of the buildings. The freshman dorms were the only ones left that were build pre-1980 and so were the only ones without good wireless, so when you became a sophomore it was like you were graduating to Wi-Fi.

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[–]ameyer505If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong![S] 0 points1 point ago

I will be graduating as a Cyclone in May of this year

[–]cattacos 0 points1 point ago

And that's when I wouldn't respond at all. But hey, at least it wasn't like our last semester when our internet crapped out from all the people playing WoW. Man did I laugh at all of the emails about the importance of being able to play WoW.