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[–]rumbite 28 points29 points ago

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"And there is no such thing as a no sale call. A sale is made on every call you make. Either you sell the client some stock or he sells you a reason he can't." I'd say you sold him on your idea quite well.

[–]gwillen 10 points11 points ago

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I wonder how having me hang up on them fits into that ontology.

[–]redAppleCore 4 points5 points ago*

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At Gallup a hang up with no words in front of it was treated as a disconnect and you'd get called the next day and it'd take 3 days of disconnects before anything would change. I haven't worked there in 8 years so it may be different now, but, if you want to stop being bugged just say "take me off the list", then hang up, makes the caller happier and should prevent future hassles from that company to you.

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[–]rumbite 6 points7 points ago

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Yes, Boiler Room. Ben Affleck plays some asshole recruiter. His 2nd best role behind Mall Rats, of course, where he plays some asshole salesman.

[–]SippieCup 7 points8 points ago

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only overshadowed by every fucking speech in glengarry glen ross

[–]miss_wolverine 85 points86 points ago

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I worked at one of those call centers and was told that unless the alum specifically said "take me off the list", we will keep calling them twice every year until they are dead, some times even after they are dead.

Oh and we had a 'ladder' to go down, starting at a specific level of donation (twice of what you donated last year if you did donate) and go down every time we get rejected, and could not finish the call until we've completely stepped down the ladder and would get write-ups for 'skipping' the ladder.

[–]sidewardBound 27 points28 points ago

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Student caller here as well, same rules apply for us, except we're taught to be extremely personable and gauge how much you should ask for. I get a lot of people that shout "I REALLY wish you would stop calling!" in which case I just reply "All you have to do is say the line 'take me off the list' and I can do that for you, sir". This violates policy, but I hate asking you for money just as much as you hate me asking, I'm not going to waste my time.

As a side note, our department averages about $5,000 on a good day. Alumni are generous

[–]thefig 20 points21 points ago

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Once a sucker, always a sucker.

[–]jdas12 4 points5 points ago

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There is a sucker born every minute

[–]Shart 8 points9 points ago

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Posted one minute ago.

[–]V2Blast 1 point2 points ago

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Liar. It was 4 minutes!

jdas12 1 point 34 minutes ago[-]

Shart 1 point 30 minutes ago[-]

[–]reddof 3 points4 points ago

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It was 0 minutes!

jdas12 3 points 1 hour ago[-]

Shart 2 points 1 hour ago[-]

(yes, I know)

[–]mmm_burrito 1 point2 points ago

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He's an extremely slow typist.

[–]miss_wolverine 2 points3 points ago

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Student managers regularly listen to our calls in another room, and you get written-up immediately if you say anything like that.

[–]gorgonsed 29 points30 points ago

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I work at one of those too. Thats EXACTLY what my place is like. Something else : if they say "take me off the list", it only takes them off the list for (I think) 7 years.

[–]xinu 42 points43 points ago

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Being called once every seven years is a lot better than once every 6 months.

[–]SippieCup 6 points7 points ago

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I'm pretty sure that it happens because of statues of limitations, its still technically illegal but you cant claim in court that you said that or bring it up because it has passed.

then again, im not a lawyer, but i am very familiar with optin laws and it seems like this is the kind of stuff people around me would do.

[–]derpderpastan 12 points13 points ago

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what do you know about bird law?

[–]Cure_Tap 2 points3 points ago

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Look buddy, I know a lot about the law and various other lawyerings, uh... I'm well educated, well versed. I know that situations like this, real-estate wise, are complex.

[–]SuperSnooper 1 point2 points ago

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It goes like this: "Remember, son - sometimes you're the bird, and sometimes you're the statue of limitations."

[–]Mot22 1 point2 points ago

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Your comment is a total whoosh for me, but I upvoted anyway 'cause your username made me chuckle.

[–]V2Blast 2 points3 points ago

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I keep hearing about it - a quick Google leads me to believe it's a reference to It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

[–]derpderpastan 1 point2 points ago

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A real lawyer is herping about derp while silly old charlie is derping about herp

[–]MercurialMadnessMan 1 point2 points ago

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I've been out of law school for a while, but I believe this is referred to as Cole's Law

[–]smile0my0friends 11 points12 points ago

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I was a student caller once, and then worst was when you'd call someone who had died. Their spouse would get on, and you'd ask if so and so was there, and they'd start crying.

Other than that though, I had some great conversations. As a student, I was encouraged to talk to alumni, even if they weren't going to donate. I was on the phone with one caller for half an hour just shooting the breeze, it was fun.

[–]miss_wolverine 5 points6 points ago

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We actually had to ask if the spouse would like to donate in the name of the deceased.

[–]Throwaway0871 9 points10 points ago

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I would have just stepped up, and walked out at that point. That is extremely rude and unthoughtful.

[–]miss_wolverine 2 points3 points ago

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eh...while it is quite disrespectful, some people do like to keep the legacy whatnot and do donate for their spouse. Most of the time when this happens it's an old lady that answers the phone and it makes you feel really bad, but I'd like to think that they like their spouses being remembered.... If the student caller marks it wrong in the computer(not marking the alum as dead) she will probably get this call again in 6 months.

[–]Cure_Tap 2 points3 points ago

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That's actually a classic ruse to get telemarketers to stop calling.

Of course, I'm sure many of these people actually did have spouses who did die, but I'd wager that at least a few of the people claiming that their spouse was dead are doing it just so the school will stop pestering them for handouts.

[–]MyMourningPenis 2 points3 points ago

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Thanks for the tip. Sounds way quicker than having to send the collector a certified piece of mail to stop the calls. Now I just need to practice crying.

[–]prpetro 6 points7 points ago

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This is why I'm giving them my Google Voice number. A few clicks and my number is "out of service."

[–]jdelphiki 3 points4 points ago

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(twice of what you donated last year if you did donate)

I see some clever manager heard that story about doubling the grains of rice every day for a month...

[–]nomorefairytales 128 points129 points ago

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you're absolutely right, i'm going to answer that next time as well!

[–]KineticSolution[S] 80 points81 points ago

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That pang of guilt, however unfounded, will not even begin to creep up either. It was a great revelation.

[–]Buckwheat469 60 points61 points ago

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I've said something similar. "As soon as my education from your school has benefited my career and I pay off my debts, then I might consider donating, but until then the school doesn't need another concrete clock in commemoration of the class of 2011."

[–]obrysii 72 points73 points ago

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No kidding. My college has high-end, huge LCD screens in pretty much every hallway. They're usually turned off, turned to a static blue, or going through highly pixellated announcements. They keep changing the furniture in the library and lunch room yearly - and they aren't cheap pieces of furniture. But yet ... they've raised food costs to extremes (really, $3 for an orange juice? $2 for a rice crispy treat?) and claim they can't cut the food costs. They're always asking for increased funding, and now they want to build an expansion ... when half the classrooms are not in use at any point.

[–]Felt_Ninja 79 points80 points ago

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Wow, that sounds like...pretty much ever college campus I've ever set foot on.

[–]obrysii 17 points18 points ago

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It's really caused me to be disillusioned with the whole collage / university thing.

[–]Buckwheat469 20 points21 points ago

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Don't worry, once you start going there you'll realize that the illusion of college is a façade of epic proportions.

First use of epic for this year (2010). Well worth it.

[–]moroder 13 points14 points ago

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See, I wish I knew this about 4 years and $30,000 ago

[–]karmaslave01 23 points24 points ago

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You only paid 30k? That sounds awesome.

[–]Chevellephreak 13 points14 points ago

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Yay college in Canada. I pay about $2600 a semester, INCLUDING my books, drafting kit, field trips.

<3 Canada

[–]HaroldHood 2 points3 points ago

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Not counting books and all that jazz, I payed about 1500$ a semester.

SUNY in-state tuition minus nice little scholarships of 1500$ and 1000$.

[–]tme001 2 points3 points ago

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Yes, being a college student myself, I think that you certainly have used the word epic properly, and have earned another use for the year.

[–]deslock 9 points10 points ago

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He can have my epic. I haven't seen anything all year worth mine. He can probably have mine for next year too.

But since 2012 is the end of the world, I'm going to have to hold onto that one.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points ago

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My school just did a renovation of one of our auditoriums that cost 38 MILLION dollars.... And then they cut my major because of budget cuts.

[–]obrysii 11 points12 points ago

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The school completed a major renovation a few years ago to their theater, and now the president wants to tear it down because she wants to put an administration building in its place. :/

The student body is strongly against this move but ... they have very little say.

[–]Rocketbird 10 points11 points ago

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The thing about vocal students is that all you have to do is wait a maximum of about five years for them to be completely out of your hair. The incoming classes accept whatever is going on at the school as normal the "way things have always been done" so they never question it. Kinda scary how much power they have.

[–]The_Reckoning 5 points6 points ago

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What was it? One of my majors now no longer exists at my old school, too. I guess it's no longer considered relevant.

[–]marshmallowhug 1 point2 points ago

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They just rebuilt the stadium, and I can't take the classes I need because most of them are offered once a year (and some even less frequently). I only have one year left, and all the classes are being offered at the same time, so I'm stuck taking classes I don't even want and unable to get into the ones I need. Also, last year they were housing people in hotels, and the only reason they're not is because they changes the rules so fewer people are guaranteed housing. (If you ever move off campus, even for a semester, you'll be incapable of getting on-campus housing again.)

[–]bearmace 13 points14 points ago

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I read an article about a small college trying to get more applicants. They tried advertising and reaching out to local high schools. Finally they just raised tuition and people assumed it was a better school. Their applicants increased. And I died a little inside.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points ago

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the color of money...many large donors and public fund sources specify how the money should be spent. It sounds much cooler to donate to "support cutting-edge technology" than to "subsidize food prices".

[–]obrysii 12 points13 points ago

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"Support the every-day health and wellness of the student body" sounds good to me though.

[–]doyouwantwater 12 points13 points ago

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Very true. As an alumni donor who gives about twenty bucks a year to my Alma mater, I always designate it to Student Services, which covers health and wellness programs. Dont think I'd donate if I couldn't designate it like that. The last thing I want to end up doing I funding our already well-supported football team.

[–]phil_dunphy 3 points4 points ago

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This is true. I work at a college campus and we are looking to possibly build a new building because it is where people want to donate money. It also increases the gifts in other areas though because when they talk to a donor about the new science building, they open the conversation for other areas of philanthropy. It is like when someone goes to buy a McRib, they usually also get fries and a Coke. The McRib is just the promotional tool to get people ordering.

[–]brodyqat 1 point2 points ago

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Is a McRib.... Good? I've never had one.

[–]andrembrown 6 points7 points ago

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It tastes like hot dogs covered in bland barbecue sauce.

[–]Grundlestilzchen 2 points3 points ago

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Ever eat dog food? It tastes just like it smells...delicious

[–]Zippytuna 1 point2 points ago

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I was just asking that question last night. It sounds really gross to me, like eating Ronald McDonald rib. Grimace rib would be much tastier IMO.

[–]salweem 1 point2 points ago

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I have had the unfortunate experience eating one of those McRib sandwiches. First thing the meat was WHITE, it was like meat/ bone goo stamped into a brick shaped like ribs. idk it was not very tasty and I had the munchies. :/

[–]PooBakery 4 points5 points ago

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You just gotta love this obsession with plasma and LCD screens.
They put that shit everywhere.
My university is worried that their financial situation might worsen in the next couple of years, so they consider raising the fees.
At the same time the recently built economics faculty is full of plasma screens.
For what purpose you ask? To display static images.
I am absolutely sure I could have cut the building cost by tens of thousands of dollars (screens, cables, software, electricity etc) by just making poster prints and putting them in a nice frame. And the resolution would have been even better.

[–]nepthar 2 points3 points ago

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I really, REALLY could never come to terms with campus food/dining. Here's what I know: * They deal with meal plans, which are paid up front and NOT refunded if left unused at the end of the semester. This gives them knowledge that other food service providers (restaurants, etc) do not have. * Students and local workers make up the bulk of their workforce. Although I do not know for certain, it is highly likely that these workers are not paid generously. There has never been an overabundance of people seeking employment through dinging services. * Food on campus is (generally, there are exceptions) of lower quality and of higher cost than food off campus. This is to be totally expected as the dining service on campus has a small monopoly.

So, I've also heard the "can't cut food costs" thing. In fact, dining services actually COST the school more money than it brought in (this was a recurring problem a few years ago. I don't know if it's still the case). All of this money has to be going somewhere, I can't for the life of me figure out where. Anyone in the college food service business care to chime in some thoughts?

[–]farnsworth 1 point2 points ago

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Our dining center is buffet-style. I helped in a study a couple years ago to measure food waste, and it's unbelievable how much food some students throw away. It's like people are taking several meals worth of food and only eating one of them.

[–]asininedervish 2 points3 points ago

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Please, someone enlighten us. How poorly do you have to manage your budget to have $2 sodas lose you money?

Please quit working at a college and join the military - that budget could handle it.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points ago

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I tried that once. Their response?

"You can donate just $5"

"Um... no, like I said with all of my debt right now I really don't have any extra cash."

"You could just donate $1! Any donation helps us rank higher in the MacLeans University Rankings!"

me hanging up

[–]BrotherSeamus 2 points3 points ago

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You could have just donated 50 cents.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Oh you son of a bitch!

[–]taolbi 1 point2 points ago

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Sounds like STFX to me.

[–]8x8grid 4 points5 points ago

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This is actually a good point. The value of your degree is affected by the reputation of the school, and like it or not, the percentage of alumni who donate factors into a lot of ranking systems. I will probably donate 10 bucks this year for this reason alone, despite my loan payments. I don't even really care what the spend it on.

[–]GlueBoy 10 points11 points ago

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They'll spend it on the salary of the person calling you.

[–]bboytriple7 15 points16 points ago

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When I graduate I will be donating to a specific laboratory class that needs a ton of stuff. Fuck the school, they've got plenty of money.

[–]KineticSolution[S] 13 points14 points ago

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This is the correct method of donating IMO.

[–]butyousaid 5 points6 points ago

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As a nonprofit employee I have to disagree. Donating to projects is great, but that is by far the easiest area to recruit donations for. Finding the money to fund general operations that is the hard part. If the organization has money designated to one project they have to spend it on that even if they can't afford pay day. That is where most places get in trouble.

[–]KineticSolution[S] 1 point2 points ago

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My money my prerogative.

[–]NewBlueDay 16 points17 points ago

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I went to college. I went to law school. Each of those schools had a "take it or leave it" policy on tuition. I took it. Now they each seem to think they should have demanded more, because they hound me for more money.

Screw them. I held up my end of the deal.

[–]KineticSolution[S] 6 points7 points ago

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I see you paid attention in your Contracts class. Good on you!

[–]gobostone 21 points22 points ago

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As someone who worked at such a call center, the workers are highly encouraged not to remove you from the list. I'm sure it's not all places... but unless you cause a massive scene, they're likely to just say "did not want to donate" and move on. Also, they don't have an 'unlikely donor' mark. They can, under circumstances, mark you as 're-call soon' and under other more extreme circumstances remove you from the list... but beyond that, the only thing they keep track of is how much you donate.

[–]KineticSolution[S] 28 points29 points ago

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So if i talked the guy into giving me money instead would it show up as a negative balance thus causing them to remove me from the list?

[–]kekspernikai 100 points101 points ago

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"Sir would we would greatly benefit from a donation this year, even twenty-five dollars would be appreciated."

"I would also greatly benefit from a donation this year, even five dollars would be appreciated."

"What?"

"Will that be cash, check, or credit card?"

"Sir, I don't-"

"Don't you back out now."

[–]SashimiX 72 points73 points ago

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I've done this to mean homeless people who live down town in SF.

I used to live in the tenderloin, and certain angry ones would approach me daily. I started saying, well before they could get a single word out, "Excuse me, miss (or sir), could you spare any change? Just five cents! I really need a BART ticket."

They will immediately look at the ground, shift their eyes, and look uncomfortable ... EXACTLY like the people they harass do!

My husband made me stop because he felt uncomfortable being with someone in public who made others so uncomfortable. Makes sense, I guess.

[–]KineticSolution[S] 28 points29 points ago

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If there were MindFuck Olympics you would have to Represent 'Merica for us.

[–]Rocketbird 10 points11 points ago

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Yikes, you lived in the tenderloin? I walked through there once and my friend got his ankle grabbed by a homeless woman who wanted to have sex with him.

[–]xplsiv 5 points6 points ago

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Anyone got a map?

[–]KabelGuy 1 point2 points ago

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A camera, 4 bananas and a large amount of crack?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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I just say, "No thanks, not today" like they're offering me something I don't want. That usually throws them for a loop.

[–]SashimiX 2 points3 points ago

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I normally do that. I don't know if it throws them for a loop or if it just makes me feel polite.

It doesn't work on mean homeless, though.

[–]slacksoft 3 points4 points ago

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I actually saw someone do this in line for a show this Saturday. The homeless guy actually went over and gave the guy a nickel.

[–]c_nt 2 points3 points ago

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After all these years I still get uncomfortable when I refuse charity x or a begger asking for something on the street.

Actually, these days it is about half a second of shame and then the next 15 seconds of rage at all these dickheads who will not leave me the fuck alone.

I like rainy days the best because I can take an umbrella and avoid all the covered areas where the begging is going on.

[–]postdarwin 1 point2 points ago

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I lived in "The Loin" one time too!

[–]brotherbond 2 points3 points ago

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Why the downvotes? This is funny!

[–]KineticSolution[S] 10 points11 points ago

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That was exactly how it went in my head as well.... This could be fun.

[–]FriendOfTheGophers 5 points6 points ago

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I've worked at one of these places too, and one of my first calls was a guy asking if we could give him money. But that's far from being the best response I've ever heard.

[–]KineticSolution[S] 2 points3 points ago

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What was yours?

[–]FriendOfTheGophers 10 points11 points ago

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Hmm...I'd have to think about it, but off the top of my head is the guy who answered the phone when I wanted to talk to his wife. When I asked for her, he claimed that he was her, and was undergoing a sex change operation. We're obligated to believe what they tell us, so I was about halfway through the call with him when he finally gave the phone to his wife.

[–]SippieCup 0 points1 point ago

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you can always donate, blame it on your kids pretending to be you and see if your cc company will do a chargeback..

but thats also credit card fraud..

[–]KineticSolution[S] 4 points5 points ago

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At first I was like What? Then i was like Awwww... Then i was like Oh god no prison rape!

[–]SippieCup 5 points6 points ago

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another i idea i had before i was "OH GOD PRISON RAPE" was goto abercrobie buy 2 of everything. call up amex, told them that they charged me twice for every item, got a partial chargeback (of half the amount) then went back the next day and returned the extra clothes i had bought and would have gotten free shit.

i'll do it once prison rape goes away..

[–]McBullseye 7 points8 points ago

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I took a few minutes to casually explain the story of how my university had placed me in a situation where all my financial aid disappeared which forced me to leave school (I was pursuing a second degree). After which I let them know that they would never see a cent more than what they had already received from me. I haven't received a call since and that was a little over a decade ago.

[–]xinu 4 points5 points ago

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However, they're still required to keep a "do not call" list. But you actually have to say those words; "put me on your do not call list".

To my knowledge the only people who are legally allowed to keep calling after that are 1st party debt collectors.

[–]mnemy 2 points3 points ago

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I just gave them my parent's house phone number so they just say he's not here every time. Just a 10 second conversation instead of the constant badgering trying to prevent you from hanging up the phone that you get when they know it's you on the phone.

[–]Fandanglehof 27 points28 points ago

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I just told them they called the wrong number and they have not called since.

[–]V2Blast 1 point2 points ago

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Brilliant, and simple!

[–]goldegl 7 points8 points ago

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I used to work at the alumni call center for my (major) university. Believe me, the practices and scripts used make the callers feel like assholes. Fact is, unless you explicitly tell them you are not going to donate and listen to them go through 3, yes 3 attempts at soliciting donations, your name will be put back into the computers and you'll be called again.

I should do an AMA... that job blew.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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I worked for my school's call center as well. The only way I would use one of those stupid scripts was if my supervisor was standing directly behind me.

[–]goldegl 2 points3 points ago

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this, so hard. Most of the time I asked if they wanted to hear what was going on with the program we were calling about and wouldn't berate them if they said no. Then again, strangely enough, when my supervisor was standing around me, the second and third asks would work.

[–]videodrome84 1 point2 points ago

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Haha, yes, AMA please!

[–]dryfire 5 points6 points ago

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It sucks that donation calls have become a norm in the collegiate world... I would liken it to buying a car, then getting a call from the sales person a couple years later asking if you still like your car and if you'd like to pay some more money for it "even $25 would be appreciated!", when you're nowhere near paying off the car.

I got a call from my college about 4 years ago. I asked them to remove my number from the calling list and havent heard a peep from them since...

[–]wingnut21 2 points3 points ago

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Perfect analogy. Maybe colleges should learn to operate within their means instead of extorting people under the guise of "well, you aren't against education are you?"

[–]Lynnier 14 points15 points ago

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When I graduated in 2005, my private college tried to get us all to donate $20.05 (haha--get it?), grooming us to become regular donors. I've never donated a penny back to that school, and probably never will. I'll be paying off that debt forEVER.

[–]Rocketbird 2 points3 points ago

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Yeah, I pledged to donate $20.10...never got around to it. >.> Haven't received a call yet! But I'm not at 6 months post-graduation yet.

[–]Kanight 18 points19 points ago

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I had this job at my school. I would have appreciated more responses like this and less like "I hate that school, don't ever call me again! I'm on the no call list, how are you even allowed to be doing this?!" First, we're a public institution, so that no call list doesn't apply. Just simply ask to be taken off the list and you will.

[–]SubtleKnife 6 points7 points ago

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It is inane that people not working at a call center do not know how a call center works. Read other posts - most places anything other than the magic words gets you a falsely equivalent treatment ("Put me on your DNC list!" somehow isn't the same as "Take me off your call list!"? Please. It's a BS industry top to bottom)

[–]KineticSolution[S] 6 points7 points ago

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GET OFF MY LAWN.... ohh.... wait...DOH!

[–]asininedervish 1 point2 points ago

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Maybe it should apply. Not really much difference between the college and an aftermarket warranty - both want to profit off my gullibility.

[–]creepypaste 2 points3 points ago

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Meh, when I did this kind of job we were allowed to put people on the DNC list pretty freely. Though we were drawing from a bigger pool, so that may be why.

[–]krod4 2 points3 points ago

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as a non american, can anyone explain to me what this is? I've gone to several schools, but never have any of them called me up asking for money later?

[–]4thdown 2 points3 points ago

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Alumni are often the biggest source of revenue for public (and private) universities...apparently, most have a phone bank system where they pay current students to call past students and ask for money.

My boyfriend's university, for example, built a brand-new, state-of-the-art Business Building almost entirely on Alumni donations.

Generally, the bigger the institution, the more alumni you have to donate money. The more famous the school, the more likely alumni are to donate to keep the name/status up.

[–]krod4 1 point2 points ago

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ok, thanks!

[–]4thdown 1 point2 points ago

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No problem! :)

[–]valereck 2 points3 points ago

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Pre-facebook I would offer to donate if they could give me the address of an ex-roomate/ex-girlfriend etc.

[–]benthehen 2 points3 points ago

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we all went to college yea!!!

[–]gabriot 2 points3 points ago

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I give the alumni the same response everytime

(a little backstory, I had to take an extra quarter of college not because I had failed anything, but because my advisor had given me misinformation about the structure of the prerequisits for graduating and they had changed while I was there. I then called my senior year to see if I would still recieve my academic scholarship for the extra quarter, and they told me I would. When that quarter rolled around, I low and behold didn't get my scholarship, and I called them and asked why and all they would say was the same tired line "Sorry, you do not qualify")

So now whenever they ask for money I just say "Sorry, you do not qualify for my financial aid" and then I hang up.

[–]taolbi 2 points3 points ago

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I worked as a student caller for my school's Alumni Office, and usually tried to have a genuine chat with whoever it was, whether they donated in the past or not.

I look at it as a way to connect with people who can offer great advice as well as have a job that supports my weekend ritual of lynching my brain cells.

[–]Deli1181 6 points7 points ago

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Good for you for being responsible and smart with your money, but there is another point of view here that you may or may not be taking into consideration, especially if you are a recent grad.

That is that your alma mater's perceived reputation, and therefore the value of your degree, is greatly dependent on factors that affect its "rank" as a university. One of these factors is the size of the school's endowment, which is why they try to collect as much as possible from alumni.

Another factor is the percentage of alumni that are still connected to the school. That's why they want even that small, $5 donation. Now it might not be worth it to you, since if you're the only one doing it, it's actually pretty pointless. But if your school's alumni collectively donated like $5 a year back to the school, the impact on the value of your degrees would be worth it, IMHO.

[–]believeyoume 5 points6 points ago

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I didn't get a shit ounce of any money from MSU, with a 3.4 GPA, because I am not black enough, Hispanic enough, Chinese enough, Native American enough, poor enough, genius enough, etc.

They call me and my parents all the time for money.

UMM.. I PAID YOU YOUR 75K in private student loan money, now FUCK OFF.

[–]badalchemist 5 points6 points ago

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Just tell them they have the wrong number.

[–]reddof 3 points4 points ago

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Student worker: Sir, you graduated almost 15 years ago and our records show we gave you a full scholarship.

Me: uhmm....I have a library book that is really overdue!?!

[–]JimmyDrogba 1 point2 points ago

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as a student caller i can almost guarantee that he/she put you down in the system under "call in one week"

[–]TopRamen713 1 point2 points ago

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I'll have to try that next year, but I doubt it'll work. This year I told them "I'm paying for master's classes at the school now, so I can't donate." Still didn't deter her :P

[–]Hold423 1 point2 points ago

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I'm gonna say this next time even though I don't have any Student Load Debt.

[–]KineticSolution[S] 1 point2 points ago

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Want some of mine?

[–]Speed_Bump 1 point2 points ago

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I told them I was my son and calling about dead father was upsetting my mother. I have not had any contact in about 7-8 years from the alumni group.

[–]lolocoster 1 point2 points ago

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INB4 someone from Sweden says that they get free college. Im jealous enough already

[–]hurler_jones 1 point2 points ago

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All of my friends tell them they are dead (college and high school)

Some of them have made it into the obituary section of the newsletters and then I see them the next week I asked them how exactly they died : )

[–]Argy 1 point2 points ago

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My alma mater's fundraising wing was calling me a couple times per day at one point, so I just got a call blocker app for my cell phone and programmed in all the numbers they used to call me with. The university has its own prefix, so it was easy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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I just said "please remove me from your list," but that's perhaps too direct for some.

[–]heavymetalmouth 1 point2 points ago

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I use to be the student worker asking for money. I wouldn't hear the end of it from the supervisor whenever someone gave me the "i'm still paying off college debt" and i responded, "yeah. fair enough".

Did you attend the university of miami by any chance?

[–]skooma714 1 point2 points ago

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If my school someday asks me for money I'm just going to either laugh or scream at them.

They are going to raise tuition 10% next term and 15% the term after that even though the budget is stabilized... and you people want more?

[–]sievo 1 point2 points ago

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They only asked you for $25! fuckers were trying to sell me on a $250 donation!

Didn't I pay tuition at the time!? I wish I would have thought to tell the kid they got to call me to ask them that...

[–]fingers 1 point2 points ago

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Cannot give you ANY MORE money.

[–]Kirbyoh 1 point2 points ago

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My mom says "I went to your university, yes. But when it came my son's turn you rejected him from the Honors College and gave him a pittance for a scholarship package. I now send all donations to [my university] Have a nice day."

[–]randomguy85 1 point2 points ago

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Good call. Those yayhoos have been trying to get ahold of me lately. I'll have to come up with something witty like that

[–]tnicholson 4 points5 points ago

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Anyone else appreciate the education they received and intend to/already donate back to their alma mater? Reddit's cynicism is depressing as hell sometimes.

[–]KineticSolution[S] 15 points16 points ago

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Its not the education we rail against. Its about being asked to give more after paying in full + intrest for the product.

[–]Uphoria 4 points5 points ago

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Indeed, we paid higher then any other country to go to school in America, then get asked to give even more now that we are done.

[–]KineticSolution[S] 4 points5 points ago

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Dont forget those shrinking wages........

[–]mikeash 4 points5 points ago

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I appreciate all sorts of stuff that I don't donate to, because I pay the price up front and consider that to be fair. You don't see me donating to GM because I appreciate my car, or donating to Amazon because I appreciate all the great stuff they've sent me over the years. Why should a school be any different?

[–]ConfirmedCynic 1 point2 points ago

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If you live in Canada (not a foreign student), your tuition doesn't even come close to covering the cost to the university. Your education was heavily subsidized by taxpayers.

I'm not sure about the U.S. with its higher tuition rates.

[–]mikeash 4 points5 points ago

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And guess what I started paying when I stopped paying tuition? That's right, taxes!

What next, should I start donating to my local Department of Transportation because they subsidize the busses?

[–]shatterly 1 point2 points ago

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My husband and I donate to the school he graduated from. I worked there at the time and he got a scholarship, so his last two years were free, and he got a lot out of his time there. We hope other students will do the same.

I now work for another university, and even though I'm not in development, I understand quite a bit about university fundraising efforts and revenue sources. It's not as simple as a lot of folks think it is--most donations come with strings attached and can only be used for pet projects. If you have one of those pet projects, fine: Donate directly to it. Otherwise you can designate your money to the university's general fund or area of greatest need.

Also, depending on the state you're in, your public school may not get much support at all from taxpayer dollars (a common reason people give for not donating). My current school gets roughly 6 percent of its operating budget from the state funding.

[–]tnicholson 1 point2 points ago

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I went to school and currently work in Arizona... so I can definitely attest to lacking public education funds, which makes me all the more generous in my donations since I recognize that my university paved the way for me to start a stable career in a horrific economic climate.

[–]sunshine-x 6 points7 points ago

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Geez, the US sure can be fucked up some times.

Your schools are run like corporations, yet you give them your hard earned money. It's pretty funny, really.

Here in Canada, I could become a doctor for what you pay to get a BA.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago

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Hence why we have a healthcare crisis in the US. The medical field is cartelized from the top down - insurance, schools, even medicine. Anyone who thinks we have a free market in healthcare is deluded.

[–]sunshine-x 1 point2 points ago

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It's really sad. Hopefully you guys get back to core values.

[–]forresja 2 points3 points ago

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Most universities get a huge percentage of their budget from alumni donations. In fact, assuming you attended a public university in the USA, alumni paid for at least as much of your education as you did. (At my university over 50% of the budget is paid for with alumni donations.)

So before you claim to have "already paid enough" et cetera, realize that there are people out there who paid for your education.

[–]KineticSolution[S] 17 points18 points ago

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Then maybe you could explain my ever increasing tuition and where it went?

[–]forresja 7 points8 points ago

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Same place your old tuition used to go. Constant budget cuts are reducing funding of public universities. Currently my "public" university only receives 26% of it's budget from the government. These cuts leave the administration with two option: raise more money or provide fewer services to the students.

I know being called and asked for money is annoying. I'm just pointing out that your tuition would be MUCH higher if your university's alumni hadn't contributed.

[–]marshmallowhug 4 points5 points ago

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I'm starting to think that they don't understand the concept of a "public" university. I'm at Rutgers, and seeing the cost cuts and tuition increases is extremely frustrating. Can we just please cut out the football program already? (For the record, I consider football to be unnecessarily dangerous and believe that the dangers outweigh gains to the student body in general. The result injury and paralyzation have only made me more convinced that they're over-funding the sport.)

[–]forresja 3 points4 points ago

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The football program MAKES money for your school. In fact that's why it exists. Rutgers gets an equal share of the TV deal and BCS and other bowl appearance fees, as well as splitting ticket revenue when on the road, regardless of whether the team is any good. With your stadium that seats over 50,000 people, even if you don't come close to selling out games you're still bringing in a LOT of money for the university.

[–]GeneralissimoFranco 10 points11 points ago

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"Oh wow, this Lamborghini sure is spiffy," said the President of the University as he drove off in the sunset while the buildings in his school crumbled.

[–]KineticSolution[S] 3 points4 points ago

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leaving the grad to weep in the worst job market this generation has ever seen....

-The End

[–]obrysii 4 points5 points ago

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The flat-screen TVs in every hallway.

[–]KineticSolution[S] 1 point2 points ago

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such a waste.

[–]stoplightrave 1 point2 points ago

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At the one I worked at, you'd just be put down for not donating this year, and you'd get called again in six months to a year.

Also, we had a no-call list and a no-call, no-mail list. If you just asked to be taken off our calling list, you got put on the first, but still get mail.

[–]raider1v11 0 points1 point ago

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no its OK.

the school wasn't free, so....while I paid to go there until they start to do things that warrant a "tip" (that's how i see it) they wont get anything extra.

[–]MyDarlingClementine 0 points1 point ago

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At my college they awarded "work study" as part of most financial aid packages (basically you picked a job and they had to take you). Working in the call center contacting alumnus for money was the highest paying job they offered.

[–]it_rained_all_night 0 points1 point ago

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So, I gather you are not going to use all all the free or low cost facilities provided by said student alumni, I take it?

[–]KineticSolution[S] 1 point2 points ago

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No because I am not willing to drive that far.

[–]annoyedgrunt 1 point2 points ago

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Such as...?

[–]marshmallowhug 1 point2 points ago

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If I stayed in the area after graduation, the big one might be gym membership (assuming I actually learn to use a gym) or recreational classes. If I could get student health care and go to the health clinics, I wouldn't hesitate to do that either (but I don't think they allow that). But those aren't provided by student alumni, those are just available to them.

[–]annoyedgrunt 1 point2 points ago

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Ah. My school provides nothing beyond a hollow promise at a chance of maybe, eventually getting a job after graduation (and calls begging for money of course).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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How about the tens of thousands of dollars spent at the institution, the tens of thousands of dollars spent on rent and food in the community, and then actually taking my degree and working my ass off to indicate the value of the institution to the rest of the world.

I feel like the last point easily amounts to far more than $25/week.

[–]mmeggers 0 points1 point ago

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Everyone! As a former manager for an organization that raises money for non-profits, including major colleges and universities, I can tell you this: This caller was lazy and the institution will continue to call you.

The more often you tell them "no" it becomes less likely that they'll call you the next year, but only because only a certain percentage of non donors are called each year and with new graduates and new people pledging or not pledging the next year that pool increases. THE ONLY way to get an institution to stop attempting your record year after year is to ask them to place you on their do not call list. The National Do Not Call List does not apply to non-profits, so being on that isn't enough.

[–]bab5871 0 points1 point ago

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I told my school they already have all they are getting from me, and in my opinion that is already way too much. They haven't called since.

[–]sodope 0 points1 point ago

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I've done that... still get calls.

[–]UniversalGoldberg 0 points1 point ago

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I read this as "alimony office" and, apart from getting ready to write a TIL about alimony offices, I was assuming drunken antics.

[–]lawfairy 0 points1 point ago

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I went to my five-year class reunion this spring and they charged me for everything. So when they asked for donations, I figured I'd already given them a donation in the form of my attendance.

If I ever have a kid who expresses interest in law school, I may start giving then so my kid has a better chance of getting in. Cynical, sure, but realistic. Frankly that's the primary good the school could do for me at this point. I got screwed out of enough money and then further screwed over -- with the school's blessing -- by my classmates (law school is very zero-sum, and the bottom line is that the accolades and grades tend to go to the students who do the best job of kissing up, and sadly, that's not me) that I see no particular benefit to giving them more money at this point. If and when that changes, so will my tune.

[–]stupidlyugly 0 points1 point ago

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My alma mater university doesn't hassle me much, but my grad school from which I have not yet graduated calls me every couple months asking for money for scholarships in the program I'M STILL IN and/or donations for the football team.

The worst, by far, though, is my fraternity. Those fucking assholes shut down my chapter (four years after I graduated), wouldn't accept any kind of assistance from me on a new chapter at UCLA, existing chapters at Northridge or USC, and flat out told me to stop coming around the new chapter at my grad school. Then, when I wrote them a letter expressing some concerns about this, some guy from the national office (Mr. Executive director of something or the other) called me on the phone and called me a liar! But do they stop asking for money? Oh no! They call, email, and write more frequently than a fly lands on freshly laid shit. Fuck them!

[–]scp333 0 points1 point ago

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Within 2 minutes of reading this I got an email from the GT Alumni Association...

[–]FuturePastNow 0 points1 point ago

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I solved this problem by moving and not giving them a new address.

In fact, there's no longer a house at the address the university had for me. I wonder how long they sent alumni magazines there?

[–]xblossomonthewallx 0 points1 point ago

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...huh. I'm a grad student at the same school I did my undergrad at (so I'm still generating more debt to them on top of interest on my student loans), and I tell them this every single time they call.

They haven't stopped asking for money yet, and apparently something to this effect is a relatively common response for them to hear...I guess I was expecting more out of this thread :x

[–]HiddenAccount 0 points1 point ago

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Gee... And I just tell them that I moved.

[–]coogie 0 points1 point ago

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I just told them to "put me on your do not call list" and they did! At least that particular college did.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I found out the number they called at and added it in my phone as "ignore" and put silent for the ringtone. They can call all they want, they will get voicemail every time. I have nearly 50 missed calls from them, they have never heard me pick up the phone.

[–]johnr11 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah my school was asking for donation about a month after I graduated. I'm 80,000 in debt from college. They can call me in a few years.

[–]Wheremydonky 0 points1 point ago

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My dad had it right way back when people first started asking him for money. "I'll be serving a delayed jail sentence that begins once I finish residency." They haven't tried since.

[–]maxxspeed 0 points1 point ago

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It helps if you donate to them one time. Then the next time they call they will start with "Hi Mr speed, we would like to thank you for your generous donation...". Cut them off right there, say "Thank you" and hang up.

[–]fallacist 0 points1 point ago

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yeah, i was pretty upfront with that issue too, and they still call me. they dont care.

[–]fivepines 0 points1 point ago

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I simply told my aumni group they coud go fuck themselves. They didn't give a shit about me when I was an undergrad, and I didn't give a shit about them. They have done nothing relevant to my interests then or now. I do not want to pay for the dubious distinction of being in their alumni "directory". The people I am interested in can find me without that.

[–]Ohwhydigress 0 points1 point ago

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Played soccer my freshman year of college. Junior year I received a letter from the alumni association requesting a donation. It was mailed to my campus mail box. I will never say the magic words because I enjoy telling them no. Also the guy that calls lately knows me and leaves me messages asking for $5 dollars.

[–]Ledatru 0 points1 point ago

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RUFFALO CODY'd

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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student call center = the worst job I have ever had

[–]michaelwentonweakes 0 points1 point ago

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I say this to them every time. They keep calling.

[–]actorsspace 0 points1 point ago

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Another reason I'm glad I dropped out sophomore year, changed my phone number and never leave a forwarding address. Debt collectors hate that too.

[–]dashenyang 0 points1 point ago

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So I've been living in China for over 4 years, and finally had a chance to go back home. I'm at my parents' house for a whole ten minutes, and in those ten minutes I got an alumni donation call. I couldn't believe it. Both I and the caller got a good laugh when he realized I wasn't joking. I said, well, I have no accounts here anymore, and no dollars, so if you care to come see me in rural China, I'll give you a stack of RMB.

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[–]Xenologer 0 points1 point ago

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I didn't get enough scholarship money from the college's annual fund to have a full ride, and my parents didn't really care to pick up any of the cost, so I worked my ass off in a call center to pay for the rest of my education while also making sure that the school got enough donations in to keep giving what scholarships they could.

I'll admit getting a little disillusioned by some things, though. When your university president can donate $20,000 every year, they might be paying him too much of the money I wore myself ragged raising every day.

Give the administration the finger, but be nice to the callers. I guarantee you that they don't want to talk to YOU, either.

[–]speedstix 0 points1 point ago

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I tell them to fuck off and that I have already paid my dues.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I used to work at that office. The student must have been new because I heard that several times a week. Then again it was at a school that costs a BMW a year to go to.