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philosarapter 180 points181 points 1 month ago[-]

We are the universe experiencing itself subjectively.

tauisgod 183 points184 points 1 month ago[-]

Hydrogen, in sufficient quantity and given enough time, will end up thinking about itself.

Lungs 1 point2 points 1 month ago[-]

The way of tau is strong within you

Hesperus 27 points28 points 1 month ago[-]

We are a way for the universe to know itself.

[deleted] 8 points9 points 1 month ago[-]

Carl Sagan quote?

Hesperus 10 points11 points 1 month ago[-]

Yarp.

The_Revival 14 points15 points 1 month ago[-]

I am the universe experiencing myself subjectively.

idoleyes 8 points9 points 1 month ago[-]

i am the experience subjectively dosing children with acid

iamyo 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

I am Jack's universe experiencing itself subjectively.

dream_tiger 20 points21 points 1 month ago[-]

Thanks Bill Hicks.

philosarapter 21 points22 points 1 month ago* [-]

Actually, this is an ancient Vedic concept:

Tat Tvam Asi

"Thou art that" or "You are it" or "Self is God" or "Atman is Brahman"

seancurry1 28 points29 points 1 month ago[-]

Batman is Rahman

annoyingcustomer 16 points17 points 1 month ago[-]

Batman is Ramen

singhularity 20 points21 points 1 month ago[-]

Batman is Robin

seancurry1 9 points10 points 1 month ago[-]

Batman is Robbin'

christifor 18 points19 points 1 month ago[-]

Baskin-Robbins

HiroProtagonist1984 8 points9 points 1 month ago[-]

hasselhoff_is_god 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

soupersauce 4 points5 points 1 month ago[-]

Praise be to his noodley appendages.

AlfRGB 11 points12 points 1 month ago[-]

And Alan Watts.

ehrensw 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

when I masturbate, the ejaculate is stardust?

VWftw 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

While I completely agree, do you think it's a bit arrogant to put ourselves as the universes sole experiencer? We may be advancing technologically and seeing between and beyond our little mote of dust, but we also have a very limited selection of senses.

philosarapter 11 points12 points 1 month ago[-]

Sole experiencer? I both agree and disagree with that, depending on the context and to which you identify the word "We" or "I" to.

If we are speaking of human beings, then we are not the only path by which experience is done. As there are countless other forms of life capable of experience. The homosapien is just one of many constructions/configurations of what we deem an observer.

If by "I" or "We", we are speaking of the very essence of qualitative experience... the "observer", then we are speaking of the very "first-person-perspective" itself [referred to in Eastern philosophies as "atman" or 'true self'].

Personally, I think that all observers or experiencers are essentially one point, one thing, simply directed at different perspectives which we would deem our lives, our realities, essentially different degrees of a singularity at the very center of it all. (Spacetime being contorted to maintain the illusion that we are separate 'physically') But I digress :)

kryptobs2000 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

That quote means that everyone is the same thing; we're all just a single viewpoint looking at the same thing at all times. Taken with the proper meaning it's impossible for that to be an arrogant statement as it puts no one above anyone else, because you are everyone else and they are you.

OldTome 50 points51 points 1 month ago[-]

Deep and has been known for centuries but ignored.

Every single proton, neutron and electron in the entire universe is connected to every other proton, neutron and electron.

Try to get your mind around it: the tiniest particles and energies in this Universe are all connected to each other. YOU are connected to EVERYTHING there is, and EVERYTHING there is is connected to YOU!

I'm not talking metaphysically or spiritually or whatever. I'm talking absolutely proven and true.

Proofs:

Newton's Law of Gravitation says that there is a gravitational force between any two objects with mass. Anyone who has taken physics has seen this equation.

What they ignore is the fact that the force only goes to zero when the distance is infinite. So there is a line of gravitational force, a connection, between an atom on one side of the universe and an atom on the other side. Yes, you can argue that it is infinitesimally small, but it is still there.

Same is true for objects with no mass but with a charge.

Coulomb's Law

The electric force between two electrons on other sides of the universe only goes to zero when the distance is infinite.

One I first realized this shit looking at the blackboard in my physics class years ago I about fell out of my chair.

piroplex 11 points12 points 1 month ago[-]

Now consider the two-metronomes-on-a-freely-moving-platform-synchronizing-demonstration, and that silly "cosmic-vibration" thing becomes a lot more serious. However tenuous, these "connections" cannot be ignored. The physical presence of matter matters as energy is lost without it, and the synergy of matter, energy, space and time collude to bring about a singular existence of befuddling intricacy and complexity wherein things resemble, harmonize with, follow, align with, imitate and synchronize with each other across various scales and frames.

The most basic of the complex shapes illustrates a story that ends where it begins, as the circle encompasses its interior equally and without favour, and separates it from the exterior without prejudice or slant. The circle eloquently describes the equality of all its parts, as any point on a circle is indistinguishable from any other, in the absence of a common and distinct reference. The circle represents the definition of the connections between things, and to extend it metaphysically, all things.

However, practically, the influence of such distant forces are so weak that they are drowned out by much more approximate, and hence much stronger, forces. These stronger forces may have been influenced in turn by other distant elements too, but again there are many closer sources which overwhelms such influence.

As the significance of these inarguable connections is concerned, it reminds me of the story of the Mathematician and the Engineer arguing about women; the Maths guy saying that, by the laws of numbers, if the distance between a man and a woman halves even an infinite number of times, no matter, they will never, ever be able to touch, to which the Engineer replies that, beyond some finite point, it matters not.

[deleted] 4 points5 points 1 month ago[-]

two-metronomes-on-a-freely-moving-platform-synchronizing-demonstration

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iceschade 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

Hinduism touched on this thousands of years BC. In my recent studies of the Hindu beliefs, I've discovered many 'truths' that they have passed down over thousands of years that have, indeed, been proven true by science (intentionally or otherwise).

I'm agnostic, but this piqued my curiosity.

JustAnotherDave 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

It's not exactly miraculous to realize that everything's connected when, for example, you watch cows eat plants grown in cow shit. The Hindus threw a god or several in there to make the cow and make it shit out its food's food, but the basic idea that we are all connected doesn't take a supercomputer to arrive at.

Interesting book with a lot about how ancient societies' almost-always religious scientists shaped their worldviews: "Lost Discoveries" by Dick Teresi, former editor of OMNI. He says he started writing a different book to debunk some of the more bizarre anti-Western history that was asserting, for example, that ancient Africans had come up with all of the advances in physics, astronomy, and mathematics that the Greeks and Renaissance Europeans ended up getting credit for. As he researched the claims, he ended up researching similar claims for Indian-, Mayan-, Persian-, Muslim-, and everyone-else-centered scientific histories. He found a lot of bunk, but he also found a lot of interesting, legitimately scientific advancements made by non-Western cultures but essentially excised from (or at least ignored in) what has become the prevalent scientific history. So he wrote this instead, to showcase the scientific histories of a number of cultures, and, I'm guessing, to wag a scolding finger at people who think theirs is the only culture capable of making such discoveries. It's not a very scold-oriented book, though. Well worth a read.

oshox 20 points21 points 1 month ago[-]

Reality is a Mirror

When we look upon something, we see it through preconceptions, memories, and opinions we have associated with the object. So, as we look upon the world, we see more of ourselves than the objects that inhabit the world.

oshox 10 points11 points 1 month ago[-]

Looks like Buddhism totally ripped off my idea

SicSemperHumanus 76 points77 points 1 month ago[-]

All matter is composed mostly of empty space.

shutterspeak 48 points49 points 1 month ago[-]

You never actually touch anything. Electrons just repel one another. No real contact occurs.

annodomini 33 points34 points 1 month ago[-]

Isn't that what contact is, though? I mean, I wouldn't call that "never actually touching anything," I'd call it "we figured out what touching actually is, and it turns out it's just electromagnetic force repelling us."

aurochs 44 points45 points 1 month ago[-]

"I never touched her, Officer, it was just electromagnetic forces! ...sweet sweet forces..."

hamflask 13 points14 points 1 month ago[-]

Exactly. In fact, given the true nature of atoms and subatomic particles, the concept of "actually touching" is basically meaningless.

shutterspeak 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

Yes, we know now that we don't "actually" touch objects. The concept/knowledge of tactile sensation predates this knowledge, though.

What we accept as "contact" is more perceptual than physical. Which could be said for many things. It's just something fun to ponder.

almightyrobot 4 points5 points 1 month ago[-]

are electrons solid or are they also made out of alot of empty space?

philosarapter 8 points9 points 1 month ago[-]

there is no such thing as solid. electrons are pulses of energy.

almightyrobot 4 points5 points 1 month ago[-]

as i expected. so its all empty space is it?

blackstar9000 12 points13 points 1 month ago[-]

It might not even be space. Just empty.

jayisthedank 9 points10 points 1 month ago* [-]

99% empty space. everything is 99% "empty space" and 1% everything you see and know about it. there is much more to everything then anyone can fathom or comprehend

GlueBoy 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

If the universe is infinite then how is empty space only 99%?

sadeness 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

"empty" is not really "empty". uncertainty relation prohibits any "emptiness".

elelias 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

This is partially not true, or at least misleading. To wrong premise is that there is a space that can be filled with matter or not, so that in some regions of space one has just the empty space and in others electrons, protons and so on.

The reality, up to our best knowledge, is that ALL space-time is filled with the so-called quantum fields. The configuration in which these fields have their lowest energy, is called the ground state or vacuum. To us, it seems like empty space, but if you look close enough, you see fluctuations arising from the "empty space", little particles popping in and out of existence. The fields are there, and they have some energy.

In regions where the energy of the fields is high, excitation of the field modes arise, giving rise to the world of particles that we know, electrons, quarks and so on.

So there is no difference between empty space and filled space, is just the same substance in different energy configurations.

dust4ngel 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

try to think of what it would mean if matter were not empty space.

mckirkus 23 points24 points 1 month ago[-]

Our brains may not be big enough to ever fully comprehend our brains.

shapechanger 13 points14 points 1 month ago[-]

I'm more fond of the quote:

"If we could fully understand our brains, we couldn't."

[deleted] 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

One brain, yeah, but many brains working together could.

jhendric1000 34 points35 points 1 month ago* [-]

Google Maps. Zoom in, you see less but you also see more. Zoom out, you see more but you also see less.

mossyskeleton 18 points19 points 1 month ago[-]

This sounds like something one might realize after partaking in a certain smokable plant.

CredditCard 4 points5 points 1 month ago[-]

Tobacco?

gabe2011 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

That is some crazy shit dude...

michaelhuman 115 points116 points 1 month ago[-]

Consequences will never be the same.

subtlerobot 11 points12 points 1 month ago[-]

This I did not expect. Have an upvote.

ruslanm 6 points7 points 1 month ago[-]

Sounds like Kant.

saucercrab 6 points7 points 1 month ago[-]

You Dun Goofed

AngryRepublican 1 point2 points 1 month ago[-]

Get out of r/philosophy!

castronaut 60 points61 points 1 month ago[-]

I had no choice but to post "everything is deterministic."

Vellon221 14 points15 points 1 month ago[-]

I see what you did there

castronaut 31 points32 points 1 month ago[-]

You had to. :)

veringer 22 points23 points 1 month ago[-]

"Double rainbow all the way..."

iceschade 17 points18 points 1 month ago[-]

To be honest, while I found the double rainbow video quite entertaining, I also secretly envied him.

I've never had an experience so profound and deeply moving as he has. I hope someday that I can experience such an amazing and uplifting event, something that would bring me to such pure bliss.

I'm completely, utterly happy for him.

scottsutherland 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

I've had a couple moments incredibly similar to the double-rainbow guy's, and they were when I was on shrooms. I believe that man was also on shrooms. I'd recommend doing shrooms :)

Imperdimper 73 points74 points 1 month ago[-]

Time doesn't truly exist. We all live in the current moment and we forever will. The past is just ghosts and the future only fantasies. Tomorrow will never come.

JimSFV 19 points20 points 1 month ago[-]

Time is merely the quantum engine that consumes potential and excretes the past. We live in the infinitely-small division between these two.

sron 10 points11 points 1 month ago[-]

Tomorrow will never come.

Little Annie got there before you.

JimSFV 4 points5 points 1 month ago[-]

Bet your bottom dollar.

ghettoleet 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

mahdiakira 101 points102 points 1 month ago[-]

The Mariana Trench.

jweebo 14 points15 points 1 month ago[-]

The Valles Marineris

seancurry1 17 points18 points 1 month ago[-]

YO MAMA

ephemeraln0d3 33 points34 points 1 month ago[-]

Life does not violate the second law of thermodynamics; organisms are like tiny little waterwheels, harvesting the energy from the waterfall that is the rest of the universe marching onwards towards higher entropy.

almightyrobot 9 points10 points 1 month ago[-]

why would anyone think it would?

HorusTheHeretic 19 points20 points 1 month ago[-]

It's a common argument against the theory of evolution. Coincidentally, it also shows a complete and utter lack of understanding both of physics and biology.

mrhymer 10 points11 points 1 month ago[-]

Live an honest life. The truth of you is more beautiful than any lie you could tell.

thisuserisok 7 points8 points 1 month ago* [-]

Most of you probably already know about this but is a good mindfuck for those who don't (at least it was for me). Its called the computer simulation theory. Here is the link: http://www.simulation-argument.com/

TL;DR: We are in the matrix

Also, if its true, we are in a game and we play games. In certain games, you can play games, like GTA:SA. Its a game within a game within a game.

DUG1138 16 points17 points 1 month ago[-]

For any formal effectively generated theory T including basic arithmetical truths and also certain truths about formal provability, T includes a statement of its own consistency if and only if T is inconsistent.

~ Kurt Gödel's 2nd incompleteness theorem, (paraphrased at wikipedia)

dust4ngel 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

this is outrageously deep. when i learned about this, my belief in the essential sense-making of reality was shattered.

[deleted] 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

It should be noted that it only applies to theories that you can perform arithmetical opperation with.

ki11a11hippies 27 points28 points 1 month ago[-]

All empirical observation is based on circular reasoning.

kubrick-crazy-stare [S] 18 points19 points 1 month ago[-]

Don't tell science.

wonderfuldog 9 points10 points 1 month ago[-]

Aka the Paradox of Induction or Problem of Induction, often associated with David Hume, if anybody wants to see what an Official Smart Guy thought about this.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_induction -

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hume -

Was also hot recently as the Black Swan Theory, if anybody's heard of that.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory -

mossyskeleton 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

I'm adding this to my repertoire of materialist redditor trolling ammo. Thanks.

cptnhaddock 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

Why?

Acglaphotis 9 points10 points 1 month ago[-]

What you obeserve is true:

It is true because you can observe it.

You can observe it because it is true.

ki11a11hippies 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

I know that B will happen as a result of A because in my experience, every time in the past when A happened, so did B.

But how do I know that the future will conform to the past?

Because in my experience the future has always conformed to the past.

thisisnotted 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

This is what my friend said on facebook in response to this sub-thread:


It would be more accurate to say that science is susceptible to circular reasoning. Real scientists never claim to create pure truth, but play a game of averages which makes claims on falsifiable hypotheses (in the best of circumstances). Though the theory laden nature of the current scientific culture makes the introduction of innovative ideas very difficult.

At the end of the day, we have to reconcile the material world with the realm of the mind, theory and practice. I cannot think of a better model than a double-blinded experiment to erase preconceptions from affecting the perception of causality.


Thoughts?

JimSFV 15 points16 points 1 month ago[-]

All these moments will be lost in time like tears in rain.

drunkentune 4 points5 points 1 month ago[-]

Time ... to die.

elevens 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

What's truly indicative of Rutger Hauer's pure awesomeness was not only his delivery of that line, but the fact that it was completely impromptu.

JimSFV 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

I know ... one of the best lines ever, delivered impromptu by an actor who was never known for his writing abilities. After delivering the line, he looks off-camera and smiles. I've read that he was smiling at Ridley Scott.

Dionysus_ 4 points5 points 1 month ago[-]

;-;

gabe2011 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

That looks like a spider's face... O.o

stumpgod 4 points5 points 1 month ago[-]

You have cute spiders where you live.

cptnhaddock 7 points8 points 1 month ago[-]

The only thing we know for sure is that there is not nothing.

davidpbrown 10 points11 points 1 month ago[-]

Most of what we are and much of the way we think, is a simple consequence of the behaviour of the physical world.

Stupidity is a reflection of physics..

"It's because they're stupid. That's why everyone does everything" [Homer Simpson]

Dionysus_ 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

Most? I'd argue that everything, every thought, every action we take is just physics. You could rewind time to the big bang and I doubt anything would change one iota.

davidpbrown 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

There is a point beyond which actions and thought can work outside the influence of the physical world. Beyond stupidity is art, for instance.

sadeness 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

Light from the farthest ends of the universe takes ~ 13bn years to reach us...for the photons though...they "feel" no passage of time...time doesn't exists for photons!! relativity can be awesome.

originalone 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

because light goes at the speed of light

deusdiabolus 6 points7 points 1 month ago[-]

The future just happened.

stumpgod 4 points5 points 1 month ago[-]

And the past is yet to happen.

trabo 6 points7 points 1 month ago[-]

Without an observer, the possibilities are endless.

wonderfuldog 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

Without an observer, there are no possibilities at all.

(I don't necessarily believe that, but I'm sure that there are people who do.)

[deleted] 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

How do you figure?

ITBilly 50 points51 points 1 month ago[-]

Think of how stupid the average person is, now realize that half the people in the world are more stupid than average.

seancurry1 25 points26 points 1 month ago[-]

Uhm, I thnk u mean stupider.

Vellon221 50 points51 points 1 month ago[-]

You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded

phaederus 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

you're shit

dummass

lefthomerow 22 points23 points 1 month ago[-]

Wait, shouldn't we think of how stupid the 'median person' is to ensure that half the population is more stupid? Could intelligence be a perfect bell curve? It boggles the mind.

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hornycactus 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

No, the mean is the average.

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royalclicheness 7 points8 points 1 month ago[-]

Sorry you got downvoted. I guess now people associate only the mean with the word average, although both the mean and the median are types of averages.

hornycactus 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

Upvote for you for expanding my mind. I never really thought about it I guess, I was always taught that the mean = average in school.

So I suppose Rahul was not incorrect, then. As they pointed out the median is an average, rather than the average, which is how I initially interpreted their comment.

Bumgill 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

I would argue that in day to day parlance, "average" is taken to mean "mean" even if median and mode are also averages.

nallyo2 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

I was wrong on my reply. Thanks for correcting me.

file-exists-p 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

There is no reason that half of the population is stupider than the average one. The average has no reason to be the median.

For instance if there were 10 persons in the world with IQs 50, 150, 150, 150, 150, 150, 150, 150, 150, 150, the average IQ would be (9x150+50)/10 = 140, and only one person would have a lower IQ than that average. More generally, the average can be reduced arbitrarily by one individual (if someone on earth had an IQ of -10^80, the average IQ on earth would be pretty low, for instance).

More philosophically, the average is a linear operator, while the median is more related to order statistic. We prefer the median, as it is far more robust to changes, as long as they are monotonous.

ProjectLogic 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

Since IQ is normalized, the mean does actually equal the median in this case.

Hesperus 14 points15 points 1 month ago[-]

It's just turtles, turtles, turtles, all the way down...

jkahrs595 33 points34 points 1 month ago[-]

All we are, is dust in the wind dude.

directrix1 16 points17 points 1 month ago[-]

Damnit. I just posted that... Well, let's see:

Like sand through the hour glass, so are the days of our lives.

afficionado81 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

Aside from the song, this makes me think of the ending of The Big Lebowski. RIP Donnie.

JCaet 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

He was out of his element.

fatcobra7 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

Aww man.. comon! I've had a bad day, and I hate The fucking Eagles, man!

mmmyerss 30 points31 points 1 month ago[-]

"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed into a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness, experiencing itself subjectively, there's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, in which is an imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."

fingers 13 points14 points 1 month ago[-]

life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life.

directrix1 13 points14 points 1 month ago[-]

This is necessary.

mooose 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

Damn you, let the rabbits wear glasses.

iceschade 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

Of course, let's point out the fact that we only know this quote because we listen to Tool, because clearly we never knew of it before it was sampled into Maynard's albums.

Uncultured heathens, the lot of you!

(Tongue-in-cheek -- I had never heard this quote until Tool.)

javafreakin 6 points7 points 1 month ago[-]

See, I think drugs have done some good things for us, I really do. And if you dont believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a Favor: go home tonight and take all your albums, all your tapes, and all your cds and burn em. 'Cause you know what? The musicians whove made all that great music thats enhanced your lives throughout the years...

stumpgod 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreal Fuckin' High

suexian 8 points9 points 1 month ago[-]

"reality's a set of lies agreed upon" - Suit of Lights

godless_communism 9 points10 points 1 month ago[-]

Some of you people need to go back to Digg.

mossyskeleton 1 point2 points 1 month ago[-]

Yeh lots of half-assed stoner jokes in this thread...

BundyCapone 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestioned ability of a man to elevate his life by conscious endeavor.

Henry David Thoreau.

EntropysChild 4 points5 points 1 month ago[-]

Space, matter and time are all emergent properties of energy. I don't know what energy is.

aumana 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

Infinity's limit is infinity. It must reproduce itself wholly, to build the boundless up from nothing in ceaseless repetition. Yet nothing is not it, and there is no empty place within it to recreate itself, nor any falseness in it to contrast the truth of the emerging infinitudes. Thus is required a great false emptiness, composed itself of that which is without limit, which while having been exposed to all manner of lack, loss and horror, cannot but resolve into the nature of that which made it

bobbaphet 7 points8 points 1 month ago[-]

EntropysChild 22 points23 points 1 month ago[-]

Empathy is a neuro-cognitive game theory equation.

a_cup_of_juice 57 points58 points 1 month ago[-]

Empathy can be modeled as a neuro-cognitive game theory equation. Nothing is anything.

chernickov 25 points26 points 1 month ago[-]

Nothing is anything

This deserves to be its own comment.

gameshot911 13 points14 points 1 month ago[-]

Nothing is anything.

Or rather, everything is exactly what it is. It's only when we try to describe something that we need to use comparisons and models.

eruiu 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

in buddhism they teach the illusion of abstraction, or when we analyze sensory data into forms and ideas in our heads we further blur ourselves to the illusion created from our senses. there is no big without small, empty without full, ugly without beautiful, these things imply the existence of the other, which is only subjective and very relative

hearforthepuns 6 points7 points 1 month ago[-]

  • If there was nothing before the big bang, what did the universe expand into?

  • Entropy always wins.

ssoo 4 points5 points 1 month ago[-]

jubalj 26 points27 points 1 month ago[-]

life is one big distraction.. it is abundantly clear that what happens on this tiny planet makes no difference to the cosmos.. we buy into a sense of importance to make existence meaningful.

ditherhither 15 points16 points 1 month ago[-]

You're grading importance in context of the universe. Our lives are meaningful and significant b/c we're living by our context. Once we die, there is no universe. The sun revolves around us. Existence justifies itself.

eaturbrainz 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

That's not deep. That's moronic. It's facile. Worse: it's dodging the question.

dream_tiger 5 points6 points 1 month ago* [-]

I think that's a pretty nihilistic approach to life and the human species. We will one day spread to the moon, to space, other planets and the stars. Look at all the great things science has given us that allows us to manipulate and control our environment. We are just getting started.

Also, life is what you make of it. Only you can give it any sense of meaning. If you think it's one big distraction maybe you should get out and try to enjoy it more. If life is truly a distraction it's at least a beautiful distraction.

sron 7 points8 points 1 month ago[-]

I've never understood the desire that some hold for humans to crawl across the cosmos. Even if we visited every planet, not one would be such a perfect fit as Earth. I would find it hard to appreciate the wonders of science while trapped inside the artificial environment of some bio-dome parked on a crag somewhere in the barren wastleland of Saturn.

originalone 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

How do you know there isn't a better planet with comfortable temperatures everywhere, prettier sunsets, or tastier animals unless you explore? This is not the only reason to explore for sure. There are many arguments that don't have to use a personal stake. For instance, if cave men had thought oh I'm happy here then we'd never have seen the real beauty of the world that lies beyond the safety of caves. Life becomes stationary if we do not keep exposing ourselves to new ideas. Besides, we know that the sun will eventually die out, it is likely that the planet will go beyond its carrying capacity for humans, and if the species wants to continue existing then we must find another planet.

VeryLittle 0 points1 point 1 month ago[-]

We will one day spread to the moon, to space, other planets and the stars.

No we won't. It'd be awesome, but it's not going to happen.

Brendan87 11 points12 points 1 month ago[-]

and a computer will never be intelligent enough to beat a human in a game of chess, right?

VeryLittle 13 points14 points 1 month ago[-]

Deep blue cheated.

andersontucker 6 points7 points 1 month ago[-]

"KA-SPA-ROV;

WHAT IS THAT OVER THERE BEHIND YOU OH MY GOD;"

takes his queen, places it with the other captured pieces

"What? I do not see anything. What are you looking at?"

"NO-THING;

I MUST HAVE HAD SOMETHING IN MY EYE;

DISREGARD, PLAY ON;"

goishin 6 points7 points 1 month ago[-]

When I was growing up I used to be addicted to reading science fiction and fantasy books. I remember reading all these stories about humans discovering habitable planets hundreds of light-years away. Some of those stories included humans travelling to those far away places. And I always thought how cool it would be to live in a time when humans were just beginning to reach out. As if we were taking our first tentative steps into a bright and glorious future.

Then I watched this ted talk about the new kepler telescope and I realized that I'm living in that time now.

The future is now. Let all your dreams come true.

TheAlexBasso 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

What is there was nothing?

ddshroom 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

As to being crazy. I don't think I am crazy I know I am. If I didn't know those around me are constantly reminding me. however I wear my craziness as a badge of honor for it is what allows me to travel into the depths of consciousness and it is there that I find the pulsating source of the love that is the building block of creation. Without letting go (losing) of one's mind the awareness is always obscured by layer upon layer of psychological scars and defense mechanisms which we create to make us feel "safe" when really they are the source of our fear and suffering. By breaking down the ego centric defense mechanism one becomes different from most and labeled crazy. I can live with that since the craziness provides me with awareness of the one and the realization of perfection and nothing else matters.

Cow_Boy 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

Fractals...

EntropysChild 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

It's all a game.

Neodymion 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

Consciousness is an illusion

belfegore 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

No matter where you go, there you are.

zap-rowsdower 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

That in my lucid dreams hours pass, I wake and minutes have passed.

CarbonFire 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

We need to go deeper.

Arnox 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

The chances of the universe forming, life evolving, your sperm, your father's sperm, etc. getting to the egg first are infinitely small.

Outside of knowing that in some form, you exist, everything you experience could be an illusion. Everything from that point on is pure speculation, because you can't be sure what you're experiencing is real.

Outside of our universe, concepts such as cause and effect may not exist. Ideas such as logic and reasoning only apply to our universe, simply because that's how the initial conditions of the creation of it dictated it would be.

There is no such thing as free will - everything you do is predetermined, you have absolutely zero control on your choices. You're merely an actor playing the role in a story that's already been written.

What separates us from inanimate material? Does a rock have the ability to think? If not, why?

Being that pleasure is a good thing, and more pleasure is always welcomed to anyone, you would logically reduce your lifespan by 1 second to receive twice the amount of happiness you would have without taking the deal. Thus, any human, if given the chance to, would reduce his life span to just 1 second for an infinite amount of pleasure. Of course - no one would, why not?

It would be ignorant to believe that we are the only intelligent life form to have ever existed in our universe. There have been thousands of civilizations before us, just think of all the breakthroughs, ideas and inventions that would simply blow our minds. To them, we may be as primitive as we perceive bacteria to be.

Imagine a race between a tortoise and a human being where the tortoise gets a head start of 10 meters. For the human being to overtake the tortoise, he'd have to reach half way first. However, in the time it takes for the human to get half way, the tortoise has moved so that he is no longer 'half way', but slightly further back. The human keeps moving and reaches halfway again, as before, the tortoise has moved and the human is no longer half way between their distances. Given that both are moving at any velocity, the human should never be able to reach half way, in fact, the human should never be able to reach 1/infinityth of the way. Thus, motion is an illusion, as movement is not possible.

Patriark 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

The only constant is change.

Everything is unique, there's no such thing as similarity. And all this change is a change in one fundamental substance: energy.

CarnivorousHerbivore 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

The universe is both infinitely large and small.

prof_karp 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

Infinity is the property of spacetime to never cease to expand. However, if spacetime had a point where it began to expand, and it has a point where it can always continue to expand to, then the boundary of spacetime theoretically must be reachable- thus showing that although spacetime may never cease to expand, spacetime itself can never be infinite as its finite boundary will always be able to expand more. This relies on the assumption that spacetime has an expanding boundary- presumably created at the Big Bang- and that beyond that boundary there is no space or time. What would be beyond the boundary of space and time in anyone's guess.

In geometrical terms, spacetime acts like a ray. It has a starting point but spreads out ceaselessly. One may argue that this is not true infinity, as the Planck length represents an actual boundary which cannot be expanded beyond- in other words a true terminus at least from one end. However, if true infinity- in terms of space and time- travels in all directions (inwards past the Planck length- outwards to wherever and beyond) we are left with a paradox of how anything can have a true form if it's form is infinitely complex in all directions. "Form" simply becomes a matter of perspective and no longer a concrete and measurable quality...

dmDOTg 2 points3 points 1 month ago* [-]

i am

edit: that is, i perceive my own consciousness

CaptainFantastic42 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

what if c-a-t really spelled dog?

pjr427 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

Time travel is theoretically possible

veringer 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

"There is a condescension on the part of the infinite to the mind of man, and that is what looks like God." ~ Joseph Campbell

kaosushijin 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

Love Joe Campbell's work. Watching Sukhavati opened my mind, and if it weren't for that accessible foray into the nature of spiritualism, I wouldn't be a naturalistic atheist today.

dabradfo 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

Everything always ends.

river-wind 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

Does ending ever end?

kaosushijin 7 points8 points 1 month ago[-]

It would if the beginning ever began.

Xhail 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

Everything always changes.

Stumpie2012 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

What if there really IS a god.

stumpgod 1 point2 points 1 month ago[-]

Then it is an asshole.

originalone 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

is my asshole god?

stumpgod 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

We may never know.

supertramp 2 points3 points 1 month ago* [-]

No matter how long you live, you'll never know with certainty that even those closest to you ever loved you in a way you'd find meaningful.

EDIT: Click the period for the eloquent dissertation from which I quoted this existential inquiry.

AbouBenAdhem 4 points5 points 1 month ago[-]

The barn I always had to clean out with a pitchfork when I was a kid. I’m pretty sure that was as deep as it can get.

a1ie5 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

42

pimpbot 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

Nothing lasts; all is in flux. -- Heraklaetos

autolex84 1 point2 points 1 month ago[-]

having a value system to base beliefs upon is wholly self sustaining... because you have values, you must believe in values to value values...

tylerjames 1 point2 points 1 month ago[-]

Am I a butterfly dreaming I am a person? Or a bowling ball dreaming I am a plate of sashimi?

godard_esque 1 point2 points 1 month ago[-]

Could God roll a burrito so hot that even He could not eat it?

CarbonFire 4 points5 points 1 month ago[-]

The universe is a program that gradually releases its source code to us though mathematics. That is an axiom.

ddshroom 3 points4 points 1 month ago[-]

I think that consciousness is shared and not limited to any one place or thing. That is why I think that life is eternal, limitless, boundless, everywhere.

When a person leaves their body (which does not have to be forever) their consciousness is released and becomes more aware of the limitless nature of being. Our thoughts, awareness, and actions are constantly influenced by forces sometimes within our control and sometimes not. Thus the relationship between any being and all being is interactive and malleable.

so i ask you to pray for me as i die and to remember that those who are not here now are still alive and aware and that they love you even more than they did when they had their bodies and that they benefit from your continued love and connection.

cyclopath 5 points6 points 1 month ago[-]

Infinity.

Period.

almightyrobot 9 points10 points 1 month ago[-]

isnt "period" abit contradicting

cyclopath 6 points7 points 1 month ago[-]

That was a joke. Apparently, not a very good one.

almightyrobot 6 points7 points 1 month ago[-]

oh snap, i ruined the fun again

organic 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

Aleph Naught.

Period dot.

ticklefights 2 points3 points 1 month ago[-]

words are the most powerful thing you have because you may never truly take them back.