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[–]PalermoJohn 68 points69 points ago

Also, finally a wise-cracking spidey.

[–]tetsuo9000 37 points38 points ago

It's like the screenwriters for Raimi's film didn't understand Spiderman.... 100% of his appeal is being a wise-ass motherfucker.

[–]Tronus 20 points21 points ago

Yes! Spider-man was an asshole and a lot of the other Marvel heroes knew this. Spidey wasn't very popular with the other heroes because people tended to think he was a dick, with the exception of Reed Richards, a scientist who realized Spider-Man was a teenage science geek / genius, the Beast from the X-Men, another mutant scientist, and Bruce Banner until he turned into the Hulk (Hulk fucking hated the shit out of Spidey). The Avengers recognized his immense power and ability and kept him as a reserve member but never brought him on becuase he was an immature shit talking college prick who hadn't finished school yet.

Alas this geek marries a redhead model turned actress. This is why Spider-Man is so awesome.

[–]Hero-in-a-halfshell 3 points4 points ago

Now he's a full time Avenger.

[–]tmb 4 points5 points ago

Isn't he a full time Fantastic Four...er?

[–]Hero-in-a-halfshell 3 points4 points ago

Technically the Future Foundation, but yeah! He's way to busy now. He's a R&D guy at this lab right now, on top of being Spiderman, an Avenger and part of the Future Foundation.

[–]bulletbillx 4 points5 points ago

Also the best issues are when he runs into deadpool and they act like complete dicks to each other.

[–]reddixmadix 0 points1 point ago

Oh yes, i had the pleasure to see one of those issues.

[–]bghs2003 3 points4 points ago

I think Raimi's films were successful enough to show that is not true.

[–]ZeroKrysis 15 points16 points ago

Success doesn't make a good movie.

[–]bghs2003 3 points4 points ago

It measures appeal

[–]Warning_BadAdvice -2 points-1 points ago

They weren't successful because they held true to the characters and feel of Spider-Man from the comics, though. They appealed to people who go to movies, not fans of the series. Plus, none of them really deserved any real acclaim based on the quality of the film itself, either.

[–]nothin_but_quotes 1 point2 points ago

What?

The first 2 were the best comic book movies around until Nolan's Dark Knight came out.

[–]Paratus126 0 points1 point ago

agreed

[–]Warning_BadAdvice 1 point2 points ago

Batman Begins, Iron Man, Blade, 300, The Incredible Hulk, Kick Ass, Men In Black, Batman (1989), X2 and X-Men: First Class were all better IMO.

[–]IHaveToBeThatGuy 0 points1 point ago

I kind of recall Tobey's being a wise ass, especially in the games (the 2 he was in)

[–]TheRooster27 1 point2 points ago

He was much more Spidey-esque in the game than the films.

[–]IHaveToBeThatGuy 0 points1 point ago

Probably explains my confirmation bias. I've seen the movies a handful of times, but have spent hours upon hours playing the games

[–]TheSpudHero 6 points7 points ago

Oh my god, this. After seeing The Social Network, which is mostly dialogue, and seeing how well Garfield pulled it off, I was excited and anticipating a return to the smart-ass, funny as hell dialogue.

[–]Vadoff 4 points5 points ago

This.

Also, the other films hardly touched on him being a genius, other than mentioning it in passing; this one seems to be much more true to comicbook canon, as the trailer shows him developing his own webshooters and helping Dr. Connors with his mutagenic formula.

[–]st31r 36 points37 points ago

I like that they're playing up the 'Spiderman is a snarky asshole' angle. I didn't realize how much I missed that.

[–]bulletbillx 2 points3 points ago

Yeah. All the cartoons kept it, but this is the first time it's being done in live action.

[–]joethetimelord 3 points4 points ago

I did. When I watched the movies. I watched all three waiting for something better than "It's you who's out, Gobbie. Out of your mind." Astonishingly, it never happened.

[–]TheRooster27 6 points7 points ago

"Here's your change" was good. The delivery wasn't the best, but it was the best qwip that I remember from all three of the previous films.

[–]cataractkid 0 points1 point ago

I realized that all Peter did in those movies was insult the villian - never actually made funny qwips.

[–]qquicksilver 11 points12 points ago

About 10 years ago Marvel launched the "Ultimate" universe. They took a lot of the old Marvel characters and updated them. That way you can have the old Spiderman that you love and new readers can enjoy and updated/modern version as well. I personally read both. I cant imagine why anyone would disparage anything that glorifies something they already like.

[–]nirolo 32 points33 points ago

I think its time to get out of the cheesy badly acted comic book space and into a little more serious and darker spidey film.

It's funny you said that because I watched that trailer and thought it looked really cheesy, and really badly acted. Look at that cliche family meal scene, and the incredible angst on his face as he tells Gwen "I have to stop him, because I created him". Then there are the awful special effects where he splashes into the river and the tower tips over. It has been over 4 years since the last Spiderman, I would expect it to look better than that movie.

This looks like it has been made as cheaply as possible while still trying to look cool to lure in the teenagers.

At least, that is my impression :)

[–]Cowbane 5 points6 points ago

Why do people think Spiderman has to be dark and serious? He never has been, and when he is, we get the Clone Saga and One More Day.

[–]Dr_Disaster 6 points7 points ago

Spider-Man himself is not a dark character, but the story around him always was. He was orphaned as a child, lost his dear uncle to a crook he failed to stop, many of his villains are close friends and mentors (Green Goblin I & II, Doc Ock, Lizard, etc.), constantly struggles with money problems, lost his first love due to his own actions, and he busts his ass to protect citizens in a city that mostly hates him. Spider-Man is a character with a ton of tragedy, pain, and darkness. His key characteristic is that he overcomes that darkness. He always sees the glass as half-full.

This movie seems to nail the tone pretty well.

[–]OnceInABlueMoon 0 points1 point ago

I salute you. Spider-Man might be as dark as Batman, but Peter Parker is a really tortured individual.

[–]OkayAtBowling 1 point2 points ago

I agree. One of the things I really liked about the Raimi movies was that they didn't try to go dark. Even when he did go "dark" in the third movie, it was like if a goofy nerdy kid became dark.

From the trailer, it seems like they may be counterbalancing some of this darker tone by playing up Spiderman's classic wise-cracking attitude... which could work? I am still unconvinced, but I didn't think this trailer was that bad.

[–]quivering_manflesh 0 points1 point ago

funny thing is, I felt like most of the writing of One More Day was fairly decent, and would have worked perfectly if at the end the choice had been made to let Aunt May die. The whole bit with the alternate Peters and the hypothetical daughter with MJ was pretty good, in my opinion. Just all fell apart at the end considering Quesada/Mephisto's lunatic bullshit.

[–]bulletbillx 0 points1 point ago

Yeah. Though some of the more dark storylines involving the Goblins and/or Kingpin were good. But overall he should be a wisecracker since he uses it to keep people off balance and himself from getting too stressed out during fights. The only times he does get serious is vs Norman Osborn, and a few other foes, and that's only because of how much they've hurt him over the years.

[–]TheRooster27 5 points6 points ago

The CGI here is tens time better than Spider-man 3 and you're crazy if you think otherwise. The only decent-looking CGI in that whole movie was Sandman's first scene.

[–]BoothWilkesJohn 9 points10 points ago

You're totally right. It was made cheaply, and quickly! I want to be excited, but it's hard to get excited about a movie that's only being made so Sony doesn't lose the rights to the franchise.

[–]xploited13 1 point2 points ago

Quickly, based on what? They've been working on it for longer than most big budget films.

[–]BoothWilkesJohn 1 point2 points ago

Like FOX and the X-Men franchise, Sony's deal with Marvel had an expiration date if they stopped using the character. If Sony wanted to continue to have rights to Spider-Man and film they needed to produce a new movie.

Basically, they made this movie to hold the rights, not because someone had a brilliant idea about a new take on Spidey.

I have no source to cite for you, nor do I have the time right now to dig one up, but Google that shit and maybe you'll find something (if you prove me wrong I'd love to know that).

[–]MisterMcFancyPants 9 points10 points ago

This is right, to an extent. This wasn't rushed into production, Sony had two Spider-Man scripts written at the same time, one for a potential fourth movie, and one by James Vanderbilt to serve as a reboot if 4 fell through. Once 4 fell through, the release date was scrapped, pushed back a year, and now we have the Amazing Spider-Man

[–]BoothWilkesJohn 1 point2 points ago

Well, that's good to know. I hope they had enough time and insight to make us a good Spidey reboot!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

i think i read this the same place as you and it was entirely speculation

[–]MrMellow91 1 point2 points ago

Na man, Marvel wants all its characters back. There sick of all the studios running their Heroes into the ground with shitty movies. Thank god for First Class, cause the X-men were going downhill fast. If you look at all the avenger character movies, they're all awesome, so I love to see Marvel get Spidey back, but this movie still looks more promising than SM3.

[–]BoothWilkesJohn 0 points1 point ago

Perhaps.

[–]cataractkid 3 points4 points ago

Spiderman 2002 had a cheesy dinner scene too.

[–]NullXorVoid 6 points7 points ago

Agreed, the trailer did not impress me at all. I just kept thinking "yeah I've already seen this".

As far as I'm concerned, this and the first Spiderman are still in the same "generation" of movies. If the last one was made back in the 80's it would feel more appropriate, but this feels like less of a reboot and more of a do-over, like a complete admission of failure: "okay, so we fucked up with Raimi and Toby, but now look at this, see we made it all dark and serious like Batman!!"

[–]OwlSinger189 1 point2 points ago

I just kept thinking "yeah I've already seen this".

But this is the untold story!

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[–]nirolo 2 points3 points ago

Well for one it looks like a copy of the thanksgiving scene in the first Spiderman, with an over the top verbal confrontation between the protagonist and an antagonist.

[–]aptrapani 4 points5 points ago

I still think a Spider-Man movie directed by Joss Whedon would have been a better pairing. Snarky, witty and emotionally savvy. That's exactly what you need in a Spider-Man story.

However, Marc Webb seems like he can do it. It seems odd to see him jump from (500) Days of Summer to this, though. The style of the trailer seems so... different.

[–]Dante2005 10 points11 points ago

I'm open minded, I am not going to dislike something that I haven't seen yet...I am hopeful, hell who doesn't like Spidey!

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 2 points3 points ago

Exactly, I love spidey. I think its weird how much slack this movie is getting, its not even out yet.

[–]Dante2005 4 points5 points ago

Either way there is Spidey, Avengers and Batman this year, and probably another that I have forgotten about.

Actually my biggest fear this year is Judge Dredd, I so want this film to be all that it should be.

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 2 points3 points ago

This year seems to be a god send for comic book fans, its awesome. I am hopefull about judge dredd, karl urban looks good I hope that he keeps the helmet on. Not take it off at the 10 minute mark like silvester stallone... like.. what the hell ಠ_ಠ

[–]light108 1 point2 points ago

I think I read on a wiki article about it, He never does take off the Helmet. I am a big fan of Karl urban and think he will do a good job. I predict it won't be a smash hit, do modestly, but not amazing. Till it actually comes out on video where it will develop a cult following and rise.

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago*

I hope that it will be like "Punisher:War zone" One of the more faithful comic book movies out there. It's not good by any means but its just so much fun, especially watching The punisher slaughtering people.

[–]light108 0 points1 point ago

I did not make it very far into this movie. I am one of the few who liked the first one.

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago

Really.. with john travolt.. being a bad guy ?ಠ_ಠ

[–]light108 0 points1 point ago

Have you ever seen face/off? Fantastic bad guy. He was kinda similar in punisher. Thought Thomas Jane was a good choice to play him. Not too bulky, not stupid, good strong voice.

[–]Trip_McNeely 0 points1 point ago

And Ghost Rider, looking forward to that as well.

[–]Heinz_Doofenshmirtz 1 point2 points ago

That movie has no business looking as good as it does. Of course Idris Elba automatically makes everything look legitimate to me so that might have something to do with it

[–]Freewheelin 1 point2 points ago

Because it's just a slight retelling of a story that's still fresh in people's memory. Say all you want about how comic books tend to update their stories all the time, but this is Hollywood cash cow milking at its finest. As if there aren't enough comic book movies being released these days, now there's a trend of actually redoing and polishing up the same stuff barely ten years later. It's ridiculous.

[–]Jackal_6 0 points1 point ago

It looks like they're setting up Pete to have a different origin; the trailer is hinting that he's an experiment by his father.

[–]light108 0 points1 point ago

As a marvel fan, I don't think they should do that. When I am pretty sure that Peter was in fact, a mutant. I don't know what his powers would have beenm but being bitten by that spider changed things a fair bit.

[–]Jackal_6 1 point2 points ago

Fox has the rights to the term 'mutant', so we won't be seeing any of that.

[–]light108 0 points1 point ago

Hopefully, one day, however unlikely these companies will realize that the whole verse is connected and allow shit like the words 'mutant' to be used in other films other than x men. It would make the fans very happy. Look at how the avengers is coming along? Disney and Paramount are playing well with each other.

[–]Jackal_6 1 point2 points ago

Sony and Fox paid big bucks for the Spider-Man and X-Men rights. It gave Marvel the funds they needed to exercise the kind of freedom and control that they have over the Avengers properties. As much of a boon it would be to either of the former franchises, it just won't happen.

[–]bulletbillx 1 point2 points ago

Yeah at one point Marvel explained accidental powers as having an inactive/dormant X-Gene that was activated via mutation during the accident which was usually radioactive in nature and thus plausible.

[–]light108 2 points3 points ago

Thats how he turned into man spider and stuff i believe

[–]SkepticalOrange 2 points3 points ago

I'm really looking forward to this movie. The old series had good villains and J.K. Simmons, but lacked a decent Spiderman and M.J. This movie seems to have a great Spiderman (with jokes!) and he's starting off with Gwen, which I find to be good. No clue how the villain will be, but Rhys Ifans is a good actor, so no worries there.

Overall, it seems like they may have fixed what they did wrong in the original movies (with the exception of removing JJJ), so this movie should be really good.

[–]redwall_hp 0 points1 point ago

Yeah, how could they leave out JJJ? He was one of the best parts of the old films. (Unless they're planning a surprise cameo, like Sean Connery in Prince of Thieves?) Oh well, I suppose they might be able to introduce him in a sequel if this goes over well.

[–]1point21GriddleWattz 3 points4 points ago

Throwing in my two cents. I never really read Spidy comics as a kid so I don't know if the new movie is based off a new series.

To be honest, when I saw the very first trailer for this movie I was a bit appalled. "What? a remake of Spider-man already?!? How? It's been what...10 years?" Then I started to regress and realize that it was only 8 years between 'Batman & Robin' and 'Batman Begins'. Granted the difference might be a bit greater than Spider Man and The Amazing Spider Man. We'll see I suppose.

Either way, I like the cast and direction a lot more in this Spidy revamp. I think it has potential to be great.

TL;DR - At first I was like uhhhhhh.... but then I was like Alright, let's do this!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

Can we remember in this movie, beyond the first time he uses it, that Spider-Man's most important power is his Spider-Sense?

Comic book Spider-Man has wiped the floor with much more powerful enemies because they can't lay a finger on him. Fight Spidey in a broom closet and you might have a chance, fight him in an open space and you lose.

One of the biggest problems with Spider-Man 3 for me was that they didn't use his Spider-Sense at all, and so Venom's comic book immunity to it never came in to play.

[–]eatmyshortsken 0 points1 point ago

Spider sense is such a difficult thing to use in film though. It'd make really tense moments (ie: The Lizard slowly coiling his tail around Spidey's neck without him noticing) vanish completely.

[–]buttguy 7 points8 points ago

As someone who speaks English; that was a hard read.

I hate this trend that "dark" or "gritty" subject matter is better or has more entertainment value than the over the top or silly. We're talking about a series that has a villain dressed up as a rhino.

[–]bulletbillx 3 points4 points ago

I just want plausible within the defined rules of whatever fictional universe you come up with. Inconsistencies are more annoying than whether something is over the top, realistic, light, dark, gritty, etc.

[–]OnceInABlueMoon 11 points12 points ago

You are not alone. The Raimi trilogy was pretty bad overall.

The first film was barely passable. The representation of The Green Goblin was really poor.

The second film was pretty decent. Toby's acting gets in the way as usual, but Dr. Octopus was great.

The third was just awful. 3 terrible villains. A needless introduction of Gwen Stacy late in the trilogy. Destroyed Venom. Hipster Peter. They conveyed Peter's darkness by giving him eye liner. Oooh watch out for this guy. Fuck everything about that movie.

[–]InfinitePower 6 points7 points ago

The representation of The Green Goblin was really poor.

WE'LL MEET AGAIN... SPIDER-MAN!

[–]TheRooster27 5 points6 points ago

I really love that line. It captures the campyness of the film so well.

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[–]TheRealDanP 0 points1 point ago

"What's up with my hand?"

[–]dejerik 5 points6 points ago

I agree with this completely. The only threequel that disappointed me as much as Spiderman 3 was Xmen 3.

[–]joethetimelord 7 points8 points ago

And even X-Men 3 knew better than to throw in jazz dancing for no reason.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points ago

That was not even on the top ten things that sucked about Spiderman 3, though.

Here we go:

  1. Unjustified ret-con of Uncle Ben's death.

  2. Guy hit by particle beam becomes man made of sand. This doesn't fit in with the "biologically implausible but not magical" grounding of the previous films.

  3. Clumsy tugging at heartstrings "I have a sick daughter!" to rustle up some awkward sympathy for the sandy villain.

  4. "Symbiote" stuff made no sense. So you pick up a sample of alien life, take it to a professor, and he just sorta says "hmm, that's kinda interesting"? That's gonna be the biggest fucking story in the world.

  5. Structurally, just weird. The storylines don't fit together in the whole middle section.

  6. At no point does the Harry/Peter relationship make any sense whatsoever.

  7. The poorly-timed reveal by Harry's butler. Hey dude, you could have mentioned that before I went mad and started trying to kill everybody!

... and, like, three other things.

[–]dejerik 5 points6 points ago

shudder I think that whole movie was one train wreck after another. I seriously cannot think of a single moment that was passable. In all honesty I have disliked Toby Maguire in everything he has ever done and I thought the first two were good despite him so I am not the fairest of judges.

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[–]dejerik 1 point2 points ago

truth, I haven't seen it since it was in the theaters as well. Everyone hates on the jazz scene but I just couldn't believe the whole end action sequence. For SOME reasons after nothing else could hurt the sandman two missiles in base totally dissolved him. not too mention the most anti-climactic predictable and annoyingly fast ending for one of my favorite super hero villians of all time. I mean for god's sake Venom got a whole multiple episode arch on the cartoon and his actual character is in only the last 3rd of the movie. I thought 3 was going to just be a set up for spiderman 4: all about venom. sorry, that's been on my chest for awhile.

[–]redwall_hp 0 points1 point ago

I see that as the director thinking "man, this film is going to suck. Let's give the producers the finger on the way out..."

I seem to remember reading that he originally wanted Sandman to be the villain in the film, but the producers wanted to cram Venom in, too. And the script was half-baked to start with.

[–]bulletbillx 4 points5 points ago

I agree and I'm hoping this reboot is as good as first class. Which I thought was an awesome movie and actually pulled off the reboot/semi-prequel thing WAY better than I thought possible. Here's hoping we get another movie with Fassbender as Magneto.

[–]dejerik 3 points4 points ago

That is what I am talking about. I though first class had a lot of what xmen was missing. Not to hate on Stewart and McKellen but I always felt that their relationship as "friends" seemed a little forced, it was hard to see them ever being on the same side. In First Class you got a real good look at how they worked together and at the same time how they could disagree so strongly. I actually came away from that movie with more sympathy for Magneto than I could have thought. I have heard that the idea is to make another trilogy out of the first class characters which I eagerly await.

[–]Bastardlyfive 1 point2 points ago

I also loved First Class, but one problem I had with it were all the references they kept throwing in for cheap laughs. "Next thing you know I'll be balding" nearly shoved my finger down my throat when I heard that.

[–]dejerik 0 points1 point ago

true though that is something that we have had to deal with in all of them. X-Men 1 when Wolverine complains about their suits and Cyclops asks "Would you prefer yellow spandex?"

Those kind of references are just something we have to deal with so that people can go "oh oh I know why he said that!" The thing I am most sad about is kevin Bacon actually dieing. I really liked him as a bad guy.

[–]Bastardlyfive -2 points-1 points ago

Yeah I get that, and I usually do nerd out during the occasional shout outs in comic book movies, but the references in first class just kept coming one after the other and eventually became distracting. I mentioned the balding reference because that was at the end when I had really just gotten sick with them.

But Yeah, I'll agree with you, Kevin Bacon did a lot better then I initially expected him to.

[–]hockeyjosh92 0 points1 point ago

i think you mean "Emo jazz Peter"

[–]mattarei 1 point2 points ago

I'm really looking forward to it! I just hope to god that if they're gonna do the origin again they keep it as short as possible.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

I wish they'd skipped the origin altogether. I like what they did with the Ed Norton Hulk movie -- not exactly a sequel, but it doesn't contradict the previous installment either.

[–]mattarei 0 points1 point ago

I must say I did like how they handled the origin in The Incredible Hulk!

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago

Indeed, I don't want it to be another Batman begins where half of the movie is him training and making the costume. We have seen it all before, in three different movies..

[–]darkmessiah 1 point2 points ago

Actually Batman Begins was kinda original in the Batman movie universe, as there was no strong origin story in any of the other movies. Unless Burton's Batman was different, I can't remember.

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago

Well, yeah and no the way Bruce's parents die is almost exactly the same also the drop down the well scene is almost the same too (It was just one giant bat while in Batman begins it was a swarm of bats)

[–]Veshy 3 points4 points ago

Ya, but those are both critical and integral to the story of Batman and there is no way Nolan would desecrate the legacy of Batman by not including those. I think Batman Begins was the first true origin story for a comic book movie and I thought it was told brilliantly. That first half with the setup and training was important in developing Bruce's character and showing the audience the motivation behind the second and third acts. Plus, it paced the movie instead of the bang-bang-all-day Michael Bay school of cinema.

[–]light108 1 point2 points ago

I recently just finished watching the 1994 series of spiderman, the one i grew up with. I have to say that as a Spidy fan, the new movie does look pretty good. I also did not realize just how antagonizing he really was to all his villians. Now I know where I got my attitude from...

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago*

I used to watch the series too, I feel that even those were better than the raimi movies.

Better villains, actual problems, cool spidey scene's and so forth, all of which were missing from SM 1 and 3

[–]light108 0 points1 point ago

They were fantastic. Something I noticed that doesn't happen in movies today, maybe its just a tv show thing but I like that the show just starts off with spiderman. Not how be became spiderman, it just assumes you know that he is a super hero and gets right into some story, and through the seasons we do of course find out how it happened and his motivations. None of this having to explain it to everybody so they get it bullshit.

[–]Isunova 0 points1 point ago

How did he antagonize his villains? Sorry I'm replying so late.

[–]Dave_Dollar 0 points1 point ago

I'm still watching you.

[–]Isunova 0 points1 point ago

When the Dark Knight legend ends, the Amazing Spider-Man will rise.

[–]bulletbillx 1 point2 points ago

I wasn't looking foward to it and though it'd be a quick cash in until I saw the new trailer. Looks awesome. Hoping they do the Green Goblin/Gwen Stacy storyline in part 2.

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago

Yeah, that would be awesome, and maybe in part 3 then they have venom/carnage and they would kill her off.

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago

:O

[–]bulletbillx 1 point2 points ago

Yeah. sort of like the 1st spider-man movie but more awesome.

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago

Alot more awesome.

[–]inquirer 1 point2 points ago

You aren't a minority. I have seen nothing but positive reviews from this new trailer and the little screening some people got to see.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

The director's name is Mark WEBb for godsake. how could it be bad?

[–]Requiem89 1 point2 points ago

I'm just really sick of the constant remakes and re-imaginings. We've had upwards of four now, enough is enough. There are so many more interesting superheroes and characters out there.

Increasingly I just feel like Hollywood has no originality left.

[–]bulletbillx 2 points3 points ago

Comics do reboots and alternate universes all the time. Also the blockbusters fund the smaller indie/art projects that tend to fail to make money.

[–]jakethesnake_ 0 points1 point ago

This is the frist I'd heard of it, the trailer looks okay but not amazing.

[–]rmeddy 0 points1 point ago

I'm neither here nor there about it nut I am interested to see how they're going to fit his parents into it.

Edit: I am also a fan of getting rid of natural webbing, artificial webbing any day

[–]Zero_Kool 0 points1 point ago

I think the movie looks great, I am very excited about this year's movie line up. If the world is going to end this year at least we should have some good films to end it with!

[–]diishy 0 points1 point ago

i think many people aren't liking it because of the previous spidy films...which to be honest, i wasn't a huge fan of. The first one was pretty good but the second and third one were rather cheesy (if i'm allowed to say)..because no one, not even spiderman would just let the villain walk away. I suppose he didn't in the second one but it still didn't feel that good..but i'm really looking forward to the new one (emma stone baby!)

[–]anbeasley 0 points1 point ago

I'm mixed on how to feel. Some parts look good, others look meh. The antagonist in this movie feels to much like a lot of other super hero antagonist

[–]stormholloway 0 points1 point ago

How can you "love" the old films but think the star of the movie is "awful"?

[–]Hightech90 0 points1 point ago

Well for one it has not been long at all since the other spider man movies. A lot of people would like to see a bigger gap between them I think. The biggest thing of all though is it should of been released in 2011 or just waited until 2014 because no one is really anticipating this series that much. It picked a horrible year to be released because with Dark Knight Rises coming out two weeks after, NO ONE is seriously thinking about this movie. You also have Superman coming out next year which is written and produced by the same people behind batman.

[–]IslaNublar 0 points1 point ago

Why would a Spider-man movie be darker?

[–]eatmyshortsken 1 point2 points ago

I see this question asked a lot, and my retort is always, why not?

Spider-Man has some of the darkest stories in comic book lore. We're talking about a teenage kid who is almost entirely responsible for his own father figure's death and is left to deal with that for the rest of his life. We're also talking about someone who loses his first love at his own hands.

The thing about Spider-Man is that Peter does his best to try and stay optimistic and upbeat no matter what happens (ie: Making fun of a car jacker).

[–]Claudelol 0 points1 point ago

The new Spidey movie looks great! I was so freakin' pumped when they announced Andrew Garfield for the part. I remember being so worried about the reboot until they announced his name. And then later in the year they cast Emma Stone. Two incredible actors. And I didn't even mention the rest of the cast, they're amazing (no pun intended) as well! I will always have the Raimi films close to my heart. I just have too many good memories about walking out of the theater after seeing Spider-Man 2. Can't say the same thing about Spider-Man 3, lol. I think this movie is completely flying under the radar, which is good because when people finally see it they're going to be blown away.

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago*

I have fond memories of the old films too. But when I read about this one, and see the trailers. I fully relized... Sam Raimi didn't know alot about Spidey at all..

[–]ebayblows 0 points1 point ago

Eh I'm just burned out on spandex and origin stories. Also the trailer was just CGI + loud noises.

That said, you're not in a minoraty (sic). This thing will sell like gangbusters.

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago*

Well now I see that I'm not a minoraty. Pretty sure that it will sell too and be popular, known as the new dark and mature spider-man.

[–]Jacoolh 0 points1 point ago

I hope they don't fuck up Venom again (When they inevitably include him in a sequel).

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago

Crossing my fingers, he needs to be big and menecing.. not a douchebag whiny bitch.

[–]lordskelzor 0 points1 point ago

Guys I have an idea, ok guys bear with me on this one:

We make a spiderman movie where his origin is that he's a mercenary, then we change it so he's proficient with swords, we make it so that he gets his powers from being a mutant, then instead of red and blue make his costume red and black and finally we cast Ryan Reynolds as spiderman.

...and change the name

...to Deadpool

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago

MY GOD, Its so develishly evil.. it just might work.. ಠ_ಠ I'll bring hollywood people, you work on the proposal! have haste !

[–]fasmaverick 0 points1 point ago

For what it's worth, I think people need to sit back and actually let this film have a chance before they start saying how shit or whatever it's going to be because it's too soon or whatever. Spider-Man is a comic and has so many variations of it's own story and different adaptions that there's no 'set' one (as long as you've got the basics). Retellings are just as common as reboots and remakes, heck DC rebooted their whole entire line of comics last year.

I like the look and approach they've taken with the new suit and web shooters and this looks like in some ways it'll be truer to the comics. I like how it also seems to be focussed on Peter's relationship with Gwen and how that'll develop considering the comics. I'm also excited at how Ifans will play Curt Connors and how the Lizard will function as a villain.

[–]jda494 1 point2 points ago

Im fucking hyped. Spidey fanboy right here!

[–]murph1331 0 points1 point ago

I could really get excited for this movie if they were pushing IMAX and not 3D. TDK was the perfect example of the potential IMAX has but I wish more movies would take advantage of it. Seeing Spiderman swing through Manhattan in IMAX would look amazing and top anything 3D could do

[–]Pleasureryan 0 points1 point ago

I've been excited for this for a while. But my one problem is how they fucked up The Lizard so much... I mean cmon hes meant to have a snout and a lab coat... It's not that hard...

[–]b_a_d_tdk 0 points1 point ago

Fuck you that's why.

[–]1of7billion 0 points1 point ago

I'm pretty excited for this years crop of comic book movies. Here are my unsolicited predictions for the best ones:

  1. Batman
  2. Judge Dredd- I bet it surprises people. Mostly because I'm a gambling man.
  3. Spiderman
  4. The Avengers

I think The Avengers will still be good, but may have a problem balancing all the characters, and coming up with a plausible threat for the team.

[–]bulletbillx 1 point2 points ago

Judge Dredd- I bet it surprises people. Mostly because I'm a gambling man.

Also Karl Urban is a better actor than Stallone overall. His performance as Bones McCoy was awesome.

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago

I am generally worried about the Avangers, I mean yeah, it looks cool and all that, but its too clean and has a stock feel too it, when I saw the trailer I was like YEAH! but after watching it for the 100th time It started looking like the transformers.. but I hope I am mistaken.

Hollywood seems to have a tough time writing a hero team movie, just look at what happened to F4.. never been so pissed in my life than when I watched that movie...

I also think that Judge dredd will surprise alot of people, but I would swap it and let spider-man sit on top of Nr.2 since he is a more recognizable comic book character.

[–]friedscrimps 2 points3 points ago

I'd also be worried about the Avengers if it wasn't for Joss Whedon. That means we'll have great dialogue and he actually understands comic book characters!

[–]bulletbillx 0 points1 point ago

That banter between Stark and Loki in the extended trailer confirms this.

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago

This is true.

[–]Silversurfar 0 points1 point ago

i kind of feel like they are trying to "batman" the spiderman franchise, they saw how successful the "dark" storyline was for the batman series, so they are trying to make spider man darker, i mean ill go see the movie, looks good. But i dont think spiderman should be near as dark as batman, spiderman is a nerdy kid in highschool who gets superpowers, whats so dark about that?

and tobey played an amazing peter parker/spiderman in my opinion

[–]reddixmadix 0 points1 point ago

Tobey butchered Spiderman and Peter Parker.

[–]Silversurfar 0 points1 point ago

i think he did a good job personally, but thats just my opinion, the 90s spiderman cartoon is my fav rendition of both peter and spiderman

[–]soasdude 0 points1 point ago

minority*

[–]sailawaysail 0 points1 point ago

Minority

[–]d00ber -1 points0 points ago

Well, the movie can't get any worse than the last series.

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 3 points4 points ago

Thats true, SM3 was such a low blow to all spidey fans..

[–]arborday -1 points0 points ago

"Serious and dark" just aren't adjective I associate with a film about teenager who can shoot webs and fly around around like a trapeze artist on crack.

I am excited for all the "hey didn't he invent facebook?" jokes the movie is opening itself up to.

[–]beeeeeps -1 points0 points ago

You really shouldn't say, "i think its time to get out of the cheesy badly acted comic book space" because the new Amazing Spider-Man film is going to be way cheesier and more closely like the comic book than the previous 3 films ever were.

In my opinion what Sam Raimi did with Spider-man was nothing like how the comic books are.

[–]Jolly_Poster_Guy[S] 0 points1 point ago

Did you see the goblin talking to spidey scene.... ಠ_ಠ Nothing, I repeat nothing can compare to that cheeze stake..

[–]bujweiser -2 points-1 points ago

I'm not excited because it looks like the original, almost exact. Parker just seems more of a wise ass in this one though and has more swag.

I'd prefer the development treatment of the last series, where you see Parker struggling with life and his responsibility. This one looks like it's going to throw it all out the window.

Plus, I was looking forward to the 4th & 5th spiderman installments. A redeemer for the 3rd, with less studio control.

[–]bulletbillx 1 point2 points ago

I think 4 would have been more of a Batman and robin moment than a redeemer.

[–]TheRooster27 0 points1 point ago

Agreed. That's why I've supported the reboot since the beginning.

[–]bastardsnow -3 points-2 points ago

that god awful tobey maguire?

fuck yourself. in the face.

[–]uninc4life2010 -3 points-2 points ago

I am definitely not sold yet on the movie. I was hoping for more of a Dark Knight feel, but felt the trailer gave too much of an original spiderman playful theme.

[–]BoothWilkesJohn 11 points12 points ago

But Spider-Man isn't the Dark Knight! He's playful.

I'm actually glad they're not jumping on the "dark hero" bandwagon, because with Spidy it only fits in certain times, but mostly he's jumping around, making fun of his enemies, flirting with everything with tits, etc.

[–]bulletbillx 1 point2 points ago

Yeah he's playful. It is his villains who are dark and/or psychos. He only broods or gets dark when fighting Norman Osborn and a few of the other Goblins and a couple of other villains that make things get serious. And that's after long grudges.

[–]BoothWilkesJohn 0 points1 point ago

Right! In general he's quippy and flippant, even in the face of danger and the pressures of his life (always being behind on bills and rent and on the outs with his current flame).

But when Spider-Man does get dark it's always for good reasons, like Norman Osborn killing his fiancee or the Chameleon making him think his parents are back from the dead, but they're totally not!

Man... all this talk about Spidey makes me kind of excited for the movie now! Maybe it won't suck? (Now I wish I hadn't left all my Spidey comics 3000 miles away...)

[–]friedscrimps 3 points4 points ago

I think it will be "darker/grittier" than the previous movies but it won't be Dark Knight level. Peter Parker is not Bruce Wayne and vice versa.

[–]reddixmadix 0 points1 point ago

That's the idea, Spiderman is playful, snarky, smartass, asshole, all that combined.