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[–]Billy_Reuben 19 points20 points ago

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Got a DRG PureTone Titanium about 2 years ago for two reasons:

  1. I was being hipster and hating on monopolies.

  2. Titanium, fuck yeah!

It's actually a piece of crap. Stick with Littman.

[–]Ragarnok 3 points4 points ago

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This, an intern I worked with got one for free and he kept borrowing my Littman

[–]lordjeebus 0 points1 point ago

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I like my DRG...I don't have the titanium one though.

[–]DrColon 7 points8 points ago

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The biggest hindrances to auscultating good heart sounds are a rushed exam and too much ambient noise - and not the quality of the stethoscope. I have had my Littmann cardiology master for 17 years (high school graduation gift). I have replaced the tubing once, the diaphragm twice, and the ear pieces more time than I remember. It works well and I have no reason to replace it. It does have the "tunable diaphragm", and that is probably more of a gimmick than anything. I know I frequently pick up murmurs missed by other practitioners because I actually take the time to listen. While I was a resident I did a rotation in the GI clinic at the VA and I diagnosed 5 people with critical AS that had been missed by their primaries, all because I actually took a second to listen.

[–]Franklin_the_Turtle 2 points3 points ago

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My god, think of how great you must hear bowel sounds now! ;-)

[–]smarmyknowitall 1 point2 points ago

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Ask him about the negative predictive value of bowel sounds next.

[–]Sahasrara 7 points8 points ago

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If anyone finds my Cardiology III, please let me know. I put it down somewhere.

[–]kochipoik 0 points1 point ago

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I just had my new one arrive in the mail (am soo happy) as my last one went missing. I almost deafened myself tapping on the diaphragm, I've been using a friends standard II.

[–]medstudent22 0 points1 point ago

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Six dollars to save you a couple hundred.

[–]kochipoik 0 points1 point ago

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Ahh yes my new one came with a free name tag. I don't why I didn't have one on my old one, soo stupid. I imagine it wouldn't have even been maliciously stolen, just lying around for so long that someone decided they'd take it.

[–]implante 2 points3 points ago

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Internal medicine intern here - I had a Littmann cardiology III in med school and got a Littmann Master Classic II at graduation. I only use the Master Classic II now. The cardiology III is nice for pediatrics because it has the little bell. The sounds are clearer for me in the Master Classic II.

I have one of these bad boys hooked onto it. They are FANTASTIC.

[–]NemoSum 1 point2 points ago

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Though I don't carry a stethoscope with me any more, I carried a Master Classic II with me all through med school. It was a phenomenal stethoscope. I also demoed one of the electronic versions for about a month. The manufacturers have a demo program in place for interested students, residents, etc. I found I vastly preferred the Master Classic II.

[–]cburrhead 1 point2 points ago

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That light is such a great idea! I can't go a week without misplacing my penlight, it seems...

[–]xturmn8r 1 point2 points ago

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I wouldn't trade my master classic II, but that's probably because it's what I've become used to. Would buy again, as they say.

[–]kylebarbour 3 points4 points ago

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EMT here, applying to medical school. I found this very helpful:

http://www.forusdocs.com/reviews/Acoustic_Stethoscope_Review.htm

I'm not doing complicated stuff, so any cheap thing will do. But those reviews helped me realize that, and they might help your decisions too.

[–]blugene[S] 1 point2 points ago*

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Hiya! I recall seeing this review discussed over at studentdoctor, there was some talk about it being biased.

[–]kylebarbour 0 points1 point ago

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Interesting. Thanks! I hadn't heard about that. Do you know why they think it's biased? I don't see anything suggesting that the reviewer held stock in Littmann, as that STN comment suggests, and the doc even recommends a very cheap Omron scope as the best buy.

[–]Azheim 0 points1 point ago

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I read this review and purchased the Omron scope he called a "Best Buy". It got me through my first 2 years alright, as it does have a very nice loud sound. Unfortunately, the dual tubes also make it very bulky, and they are prone to brush into each-other, creating noise artifacts. Because I didn't want to carry that awkward scope with me all the time in clerkships, I replaced it with a Littmann Master Cardiology before starting my 3rd year. The Littmann is somewhat louder, produces far fewer artifacts because the tubes can't bump into each-other, and is far more comfortable to wear at the end of the day due to the lower weight. To me, the extra comfort and flexibility in a device that I use every day is worth an extra $140.

[–]significantrisk 5 points6 points ago

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This discussion crops up repeatedly wherever more than 3 med-people gather, and there's always much debate about the merits of one steth over another.

I thought the differentiation was important, until I saw the ICU consultants using those cheap and nasty semi-disposable steths with their patients. Even My 20yo battered bottom of the range littmann hand-me-down has those things beat from an engineering standpoint, so I figure it's more than good enough for dealing with regular sick people.

In terms if professional recommendations from superiors, I see the paeds guys opting for the paeds versions (smaller head) of the basic littmann models. Other than that, some people favour the lower-end cardiology models.

The only people I've seen using the fancier steths - and this includes cardiologists - are students who think they have magic powers.

One consultant explained it thusly - once the steth works, it doesn't matter. Like a violin, if you're very good at using the basic one you'll be able to get more from a fancy model - but even a Stradivarius won't make you a good musician.

[–]Ragarnok 1 point2 points ago

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In defense of the plastic stehts they are never broken since you can just throw them away whenever they show signs of malfunction, if my littman were to break though I'm not sure i would notice it straight away

[–]jp2 1 point2 points ago

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Family medicine - went from cheapest Littmann's to Cardiology II and noticed a great improvement. I've tried fancier ones and didn't notice much of a difference, or at least not the same scale of improvement.

[–]Studdy 1 point2 points ago

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I have the Welch Allyn Harvey DLX Double Head. I think it's awesome.

[–]mrsmalls 1 point2 points ago

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I have a Littman lightweight and sometimes I can't even hear an apical.

http://www.amazon.com/Littmann-Lightweight-Stethoscope-Black-L2450/dp/B001CCINO0

I actually pick up more with a $10 disposable steth

I'm thinking of grabbing a master classic or a master III?

[–]WRad 1 point2 points ago

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I use a Tycos and think it is really, really good, but it is pricey. If money weren't an issue, I would certainly recommend you get that one, but mine was a gift. If I had to pay for my own, I probably wouldn't have wanted to splurge.

[–]ScurvyDervish 0 points1 point ago

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I think Ultrascopes sound pretty good for the price.

[–]a1g9c88 0 points1 point ago

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I've got a Cardio III, black edition. It's sweet.

[–]shadowandlight 0 points1 point ago

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Littman Cardio III hands down. I've owned mine for at least 7 years and it has lasted 10's of thousands of hours riding around in ambulances.

[–]musicalwoods 0 points1 point ago

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Med student here.

My bookstore had a sampling session where they had 6 Littmann models, 3 Welsh-Allyn models, and a few electronic ones to try. I recommend trying to find somewhere that'll allow you to test out each that you're interested in. I settled on the Littmann Cardiology S.T.C. and love it.

[–]mrspistols 0 points1 point ago

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I have a a Littman Cardiology and a Master Classic. Like both almost equal. Cardiology seems to block out noise better.

Anybody have a good recommendation for stethoscopes for morbidly obese patients? Sometimes the body habitus can make sounds so distant. Kinda surprised they haven't come out with something. I try alternate positions, but that can be tricky.

[–]palster 0 points1 point ago

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The best steth I've ever used is the Littmann Cardiology III, but I haven't tried any brand other than Littmann. Right now I use the Lightweight, and I don't find it any different from the Master Classic II I had before. It was a gift, and I actually prefer it to the Master Classic - it's much lighter, and it's easier to take the patient's blood pressure via the auscultatory method with it, because the diaphragm is a bit elongated, making it easier to place under the cuff. It's also easier to auscultate the abdomen and chest when you have to put the steth under the patient's clothes, again because it covers a greater surface area.