So I was forced to pull my sidearm today...

sapo916 · 6 months

You drew your weapon after being physically attacked in close quarters and you had enough restraint to not mindlessly unload your weapon after that. A great job indeed.

foshaug · 6 months

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Koneri · 6 months

You did great! My only pointer because you ask would be to call the Police at the scene ASAP. Depending on where it happened and if you are lucky enough to have a patrol unit in the area, they might have caught this trash. Not much chance really but at least some.

Also this is not a case of just assault. This is an attempted robbery by definition. Much more serious offense than just assault.

Again....good job!

bubblescivic · 6 months

Congratulations on making it out alive. Some of my friends think I'm insane for always carrying my sidearm (Keltec PF-9 or Glock 23) but I tell them two things, which are a bit cliche if I might add:

1) It is better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

2) It is better to be tried by twelve than carried by six.

deepfriedpirate · 6 months

You did well for a real draw, and lucky that he didn't make you shoot him.

Also, the tl;dr is perfect.

lizard450 · 6 months

You don't win until you escape the situation. Your vision was impaired and you don't know what kind of backup that shithead had. Getting the fuck out of there was the RIGHT CALL. Heading home I think was also the RIGHT CALL. The only other place would have been the hospital and that depends on how familiar you were to get from A-B if you weren't 100% then fuck it go home.

ronpaulbacon · 6 months

So the statistics of 9/10 times you need to pull a gun you don't have to fire it. Held true for you. Good man.

CaptainTitus · 6 months

I should forward this to my boss, he doesn't allow concealed carry in the office.

I'm also glad to see you're ok.

B5_S4 · 6 months

Glad you're okay man, There's a lot of speculation in here about if you would have been justified in firing. I'm also a Florida resident and the law says if anyone tries to forcibly enter your vehicle, or forcibly remove you from it you fall under castle doctrine and are well within your rights to defend yourself with deadly force.

I also am unable to carry at work, though if I were you I would anyway. I am prevented from carrying by law, you are prevented by policy. I'd take getting fired over getting shot in a parking lot any day.

Also Publix subs are fucking amazing. Publix was my first real job when I was 16. There are a lot of weird people that worked at mine.

Spaceneedle420 · 6 months

He was sooooo lucky you didn't paint the parking lot with his brains.

expload · 6 months

As a Florida CCW permit holder these stories remind me why I take the extra few seconds to slap on my Supertuck/M&P setup on instead of throwing my other pistol in the glove box. I hope to never draw but you never know what can happen and you never know when you need a chambered weapon that's ready to go.

oSpaZMaNo · 6 months

Glad you're ok. Any damage to the eye?

MrWiggles2 · 6 months

I read this on the toilet and I still shat myself.

imfromtheinternets · 6 months

what would've happened to you, if you'd shot him? from the law perspective

studflucker · 6 months

Glad you're alright.

I don't know if you're a drinkin' man, but here have a beer. (TSSSsstt)

ltkernelsanders · 6 months

Glad everything turned out alright for you. Only thing I'd be worried about is that he might come back with his own gun or more people or both, at some point. I would talk to your boss, show him the police report or even have him talk to the police, and see if there is anything you can do about being able to carry from the store to your car since you have now been involved in an incident that warrants it.

Edit: Not that you shouldn't have been able to carry to begin with, I'm just looking at it from their stand point and it seems now you have a bit more ground to stand on in that respect.

Howlinghound · 6 months

Odd question, maybe, but do you remember having your finger on the trigger as you pointed it at him or was it off?

asgarnieu · 6 months

Glad you're (mostly) okay, jblaze123. Sounds like you did everything by the book.

XFDRaven · 6 months

It makes me sad that in my state if I draw I have to shoot or else I get raped by the DA. (And then if you do shoot you still get raped by the DA).

Good job all around though. You did exactly what was needed.

pinion13 · 6 months

I personally would have told "homeboy" to sit the fuck down while I called the cops.. I understand how fast it all happened though and I'm glad you are ok.

Did they find him?

funksoldier83 · 6 months

Good on ya, brutha. God bless and thanks for putting it out there to the criminal community that some people carry. Life must taste really sweet to you right now, you deserve every ounce of it. Edit ice cream tastes pretty good too.

dbadaddy · 6 months

very glad this turned out with only minor damage to you. double up your sit. aware from now on when leaving your office because now he knows where to get a gun. not sure how you could further secure your firearm in the car while still making it easy access. I have a lockbox under my seat but it isn't a quick transfer to IWB.

ProjektTHOR · 6 months

get a few laughs

Would have been funnier if you had ice cream on your face, instead. :]

Cloisonne · 6 months

I'm really glad that you are OK and the bad guy ran away. Maybe you just saved the next guy or gal; I bet that punk thinks twice before trying to jack someone again.

Your story reminds me of something I read in a self-defense book. The author wrote that if you have to draw your gun, or fight away an assailant, that you have failed, because you weren't paying attention to your surroundings and you got surprised. I think this is the most difficult part of self-defense, the maintaining of vigilance. You don't need a gun to do it, either, but damn it, I wish I could carry one (used to live in TX, now live in IL).

drabhtor · 6 months

I told them the entire story from beginning to end, including me drawing my weapon just to make sure I was within my bounds for self defense.

Why? What if you were not within your bounds? You would possibly be in jail right now. There is no reason to tell them anything other than the other guy's actions, description, etc.

If you had broken the law, telling them would not give you a get out of jail free card, but might put you in jail. I.e., there is nothing to gain from doing this, but a lot to lose.

randall6666_ · 6 months

Man...honestly, I don't know what I would have done. I am nervous about telling the cops anything without a lawyer present. I used to not be but now everything is so messed up. I know you think you did the right thing but cops and district attorneys DO NOT EVER HAVE YOUR BEST INTEREST AT HEART! That is a natural fact. I hope all turns out well for you!

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hobodemon · 6 months

Try Black Walnut ice cream with chocolate-covered bacon. If that doesn't sound like comfort food, I don't know what does :p
Here's hoping you feel better soon, and that the kid magically transforms into a gun-fearing law-abiding honestly-working citizen as a result of this, and doesn't just decide he needs a gun himself!

Icweinerx2 · 6 months

You did great!!!

420foy · 6 months

Upvote for restraint. Don't know if I could've held back after that... Glad you're ok.

modestokun · 6 months

Hopefully this ne'er-do-well will think twice before trying to steal something in the future. Or maybe instead of throwing an intimidating punch he'll just stab or shoot someone without warning to get what he wants.

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ramblemn · 6 months

you are right handed/right side holstered?

eirttik23 · 6 months

You didn't shoot. You gave him a choice and he made the right choice. Good for you for not being a fire happy idiot and thinking fast!

OilyDischarge · 6 months

Fake story is fake. Poster is inconsistent in his details and charge is battery not assault. The cop would know better. In law, assault is a crime causing a victim to fear violence. The term is often confused with battery, which involves physical contact. The specific meaning of assault varies between countries, but can refer to an act that causes another to apprehend immediate and personal violence, or in the more limited sense of a threat of violence caused by an immediate show of force.

sheepshankl · 6 months

He'll be back. Or one of his friends. Or, worst case, both. And they'll bring guns this time. Reason I say this is because now they know about that Glock and they'll want it.

You were bested: had he hit you harder you would have been knocked out. You need to work on your situational awareness (seriously, you were blind-sided) and specifically how to deal with two perps approaching from different directions.

Good news: they'll likely try to jump you in the same place or near it.

libertyfox · 6 months

dude, i have been interning with a police department and one thing you should have done is call the cops right away. They hate it when they get a call 10 minutes after the fact. If you really wanted him to get caught you should have made the call as soon as possible and follow him.

nedak · 6 months

You're taking vicodin because you got punched in the face?

Carrying a gun is probably the best decision for you.

MayorReilly · 6 months

Forgive the noob question (I'm not a firearm owner , but hope to be within six months. I'm also not American so I'm not familiar with the law in this jurisdiction), but would it not have been better for you to order the guy to the ground and call the police? EDIT: I'm delighted you were able to protect yourself.

BloodyDog · 6 months

How severe are your injuries?

kgriggs75 · 6 months

This is why we carry outside of our front door.

KevlarAllah · 6 months

Glad you're okay. Seems like you made all the right moves, and went through the right process. Also glad you didn't have to kill/maim/wound anyone. That takes one hell of a toll on a man.

Pooters · 6 months

So wait, did he punch you after you had drawn your gun on him and you were sitting down resting? Or did he punch you after he yanked the door open?

groverofl · 6 months

A similar story happened to me, but I don't have a carrying permit. Someone was picking the lock to my backdoor when no one was home accept me. I snuck up to the gun safe and waited until he got the lock and got inside. I flicked on the lights and flaunted my father's Glock at his face and told him to run. I couldn't see his face very well to file proper police report but he had to have been in his early teens. He ran away and was later caught doing the same thing. After the incident I kept the gun very close to me for the next few weeks...

internesting · 6 months

I am glad you were safe and that things worked out, but you weren't forced to do anything. You chose to draw your weapon on him.

mneptok · 6 months

...some pointers as to what I could have done better...

You're alive. Perp's alive. Property is undamaged.

Sounds like you did just fine to me!

Swifti15 · 6 months

It's situations like this I wish my state had carrying licenses. Don't be shaken up, he could have killed you just for being there. Good luck with a police report. I think every department in the country is looking for that black male wearing baggy jeans and a black sweatshirt

Kollontai · 6 months

'love the tl;dr :)

imases · 6 months

Isn't Vicodin really strong? Did he hit you with fists of steel?

ALSO_ATHEISM · 6 months

I don't understand people who commit violent crime in heavily pro-gun states like Florida. I really just don't get it. The odds of attacking someone who has a gun are not in the assailants favor.

Glad your ok jblaze.

jmsh44 · 6 months

watch your back man. i wouldn't be surprised if that jackass showed up again with a weapon of his own

danfive555 · 6 months

Only thing you could have done better is tactical awareness. Other than that you did really well.

predatorfive · 6 months

Would you have caught any flak for shooting this guy? On my knowledge of self defense laws, there shouldn't be any legal repercussions for defending yourself with a firearm after being assaulted. (I could be totally wrong, I've only heard from word of mouth) I fear that in a situation like this I would be fearing for my life and so adrenaline high I would've shot this man. I hope that I wouldn't be punished for being a victim. Sure I probably should not fire my handgun, but he shouldn't be punching me in the face and trying to steal my vehicle.

Shol-va · 6 months

I love reading stories like this. Cudos to you for not taking his head off.

Spaker · 6 months

I applaud you for handling this situation well after the point of the attack, but I find it odd that no one has mentioned that if you had closed the door of your car and locked it before retrieving your gun, then you may have avoided the situation all together. Sitting in a car with an open door for any length of time makes you a very tempting target. Open door and keys are all there, all the BG has to do in order to obtain the car is remove you from the equation. That's a lot easier than trying to get you to open your locked door, and depending on the bad guy's technical ability, may be much easier than stealing your unoccupied car.

I'm not saying this would avoid all such situations all the time (and may not have helped in the OPs case, depending on the details), but when I get into my car and my gun isn't on me already, I close the door, lock it, start the engine, and then retrieve my gun and holster from the glove box or console. This puts an immediate barrier between me and anyone with bad intentions, and having the engine running gives me a quick escape route without fumbling with keys under stress.

Just something to think about.

fungalicious · 6 months

So at that point, instinct kicked in and I immediately drew my weapon and pointed it at said homeboy and yelled at him to either run or make a move

I don't wanna be that guy, but whenever I read these kinds of stories on r/guns - this is the part that has me really second guessing it.

I have been in a few tense situations and the idea that you told the guy to "make a move" just strikes me as too Dirty Harry. Maybe my body processes the stress differently - but this reaction just sounds made up.

If not - you should be in some sort of special ops line of work. Because to get decked in the face, in the middle of a car jacking, and for you to have the calm, cool nerves to essentially draw on the guy and say: make my day - that's either fiction, or you got nerves of steel and need to put them in use!

Murrabbit · 6 months

Terribly sorry that you had to go through that, but I'm glad it turned out a lot better than it could have. Hope you're doing better now and that bruising goes away quickly.

That said though, whey you use the term "homeboy", it really reads as if you are very old very white and very out of touch, haha.

DeadPand · 6 months

Sounds like you handled yourself well. Good job man.

aqua_scummm · 6 months

Do you carry with one in the chamber?

If you hadn't, would you have had time to rack the slide?

drum1286 · 6 months

You're the man.

That is all.

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