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[–]vtslimzone 5 11 points12 points ago

You will most likely have correct temperature conditions to get a sap run this week, but it will probably also get cold again, and the tree will stop running. At this point, the holes you drilled are going to start getting slowly sealed off by the tree. This is why people wait until late February - early March to tap. If you tap at the right time you'll capture the most active flow days. The flip of the coin is that you don't want to tap too late and only get a few good days in before the buds break (which is when you're going to want to remove your taps). Day light doesn't affect things too much, since the trees are mostly responding to air and soil temperature.

What kind of maple are you tapping? Your picture looks like it could be a sugar maple (most definitely preferred) but perhaps something different? (silver or red maple?) hard to tell.

Good luck, have fun, enjoy, let me know if you have any questions

[–]DrumlinUS-5B, Northern IL[S] 6 points7 points ago

Sadly, it's just a silver maple. I realize this is far less than ideal, but hey, it's what I have (inherited 3 mature ones when we bought our house 10 years ago), so I'm going with it.

The process is what is the fun part for us, with the end result being the icing on the cake (or in this case, the syrup on the pancakes.)

And thanks for the tips. All of my trees are very large, each large enough to support 3 taps on their own. So, I figure if I screw this one up, I can just move to the next tree.

[–]Tr33 2 points3 points ago*

I knew that didn't look like a sugar maple when I saw the bark haha. Good luck with that.. I'd like to hear how it works. My Dad tried to tap the Manitoba maple in our backyard years ago, not knowing much about different kinds of maple trees. He was unsuccessful.. Our only other option would have been a Norway maple.

Edit: Nice name, by the way.. I live in the middle of a Drumlin field with over 1,000 drumlins in it. I can see 4 out of my window. And I live on one.

[–]vtslimzone 5 0 points1 point ago

Norway maple works. You get a TON of sap, and it has a lower sugar content, so you need to do a lot of boiling. Much more doable if you get to your buckets early in the day and remove the ice, so you only have concentrated sap to haul

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[–]erdle 2 points3 points ago

From my understanding, plants come out of hibernation based on temperature. This is why a warm winter/spring can cause buds to come out early regardless of how much light there is.

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[–]erdle 1 point2 points ago

Hasn't been warm enough, long enough and it's still fairly cold at night. Evolution killed off all the trees that would/did bud out after only a week or two of warm weather in the middle of winter.

[–]MikerkUS Zone 7b, Ark 1 point2 points ago

Oak trees seem to hold out the longest and rarely bud early, but down here in Arkansas I have spotted a couple trees beginning to leaf out. It's definitely early, but I think the night temperatures have as much or more to do with it as the daytime highs. Even if the high is 50, but it's getting down to 30 at night trees usually wont bud. For the last couple weeks we haven't seen much of any frost though.

[–]erdle 0 points1 point ago

Okay, but daylight hasn't increased for time of year...

Also, you lucky bastard for those temperatures.

[–]DrumlinUS-5B, Northern IL[S] 2 points3 points ago

You could very well be right...I honestly have no idea. Hopefully someone with more experience will chime in.

[–]sethky 5 points6 points ago

Related question: I'm planning to tap my maples for the first time this year. Is the late February/early March date the same for central Kentucky, or could/should I start earlier?

[–]nbcaffeine 2 points3 points ago

It has to do with temps in your area. If I recall correctly, the best days are when it's below freezing at night and above freezing during the day. That's when the most sap runs.

My co worker makes gallons of the stuff here in New York, so I assume he knows what he is doing, and he's off work today to tap. It's also unseasonably warm here lately, that could have something to do with it.

[–]vtslimzone 5 0 points1 point ago

In large sugaring operations tubing with check-valves are often used. This prevents embolisms going into the tree and stopping the flow - so no need to worry about tapping too early! It's a slick setup for the right size operation

[–]DrumlinUS-5B, Northern IL[S] 2 points3 points ago

No expert here...but vtslim's comment seems to be good advice.

I'm a lot further north than you, and am giving it a shot now...but my expectations are low, as that this is my first attempt.

[–]filthyhobo 3 points4 points ago

I remember helping on my uncle's farm, and long forgot about the methods. I've wanted to get into it, and was curious how the taps look? Do you think I'd be able to get away with a skinny pipe? Kind of like a brake line or something?

[–]og_sandiego 3 points4 points ago

Jealous for sure. Although I'm sure that means it's cold up there. I surfed this morning, I suppose I could buy some great syrup like you're making there.

Stoked for your pancakes, though ;)

[–]mutantgazette 6 points7 points ago

Tree Syrup :)

How cool is that to think that a humble tree can produce such an amazing botanical delicacy.

That is so cool and fun that you can actually work with a TREE to procure such a divine sweet substance. I am envious! I would love to try harvesting Maple syrup someday.

I have always preferred the purity of Maple syrup as sweetener especially since it is a ‘WHOLE’ native product that cannot even be closely compared to store bought pancake syrups that usually have a base of High Fructose Corn Syrup and a whole slew of other synthetic chemical ingredients.

Since I am on a Nature’s goodness rant here, I felt it would be interesting to share and point out that true/pure Maple syrup is actually an amazing botanical medicine compound and another way Nature’s apothecary provides us with naturally sweet flavors that can be good for us as opposed to refined, diluted and bleached sugar that can cause a lot of complications for our human nutritional physiology.

Pure Maple Syrup Contains Beneficial Compounds Pharmacy Researcher Finds

From the article:

During his maple syrup research, Seeram and his research team found phenolics, the beneficial class of anti-oxidant compounds also found in berries. "We speculated that the sugar maple is wounded when it is tapped for its sap, and that it secretes phenolics as a defense mechanism." Seeram said the sap probably has low concentrations of these native phenolics. "But when you boil the sap down, there could be higher levels because syrup is a highly concentrated liquid. Plus, the natural plant bioactives could remain intact or undergo process-induced chemical changes during the heating process resulting in further-derived bioactive compounds." The biomedical scientist said such early research is exciting because many people would not associate such a sugary product with healthy biological properties.

It is also interesting to note that those pagan North American Native populations were the cultures that introduced the westerners to the art and science of ‘Wild-Crafting’ plant foods like Maple Syrup. There is a lot we can learn from how the Native cultures on the North American continent were connected to their environment. It always makes me wonder how these wonderful Pagans discovered that they could actually obtain Maple Syrup from trees in the first place... :)

History of Maple Syrup:

Perhaps a more believable story is that of the Indian woman named Moqua. The story was recounted in the April 1896 issue of The Atlantic Monthly by Vermonter Rowland E. Robinson. The story goes that Moqua was cooking a prime cut of moose for her husband, the hunter Woksis. However, Moqua became preoccupied with her quill-work and let the pot boil dry. Realizing she did not have time to melt some snow she used some maple sap she had been saving for a beverage. Woksis was so impressed with the meal he broke the pot so he could lick the last of the “goo” from the pot shards. Yet another legend states that a chief removed his tomahawk from the trunk of a sugar maple tree, where he had thrown it the night before. As the sun got higher, the sap began to drip from the gash in the tree. The Chief's wife tasted it and discovered that it didn't taste bad, so she used it to cook the meat (though another version says that the pot was left under a broken sugar maple branch and the sap dripped into it). Later when the meat was cooked, the sap boiled down to a syrup. The irresistibly sweet scent and taste of the maple meat so delighted the Chief that he named it Sinzibuckwud—a word meaning “drawn from trees.” This became the word used most often by Native Americans when referring to maple syrup.

More on Maple Syrup [Thanks Wikipedia!]

Forgive me for this long winded mini-dissertation on this wonderful addition to our medicinal nutritional and gastronomic enjoyment, but reading about healthy native botanical foods gets me excited. Plus, I am recently relearning how to consider about food products that are sucrose/fructose/glucose based in order to mediate some health issues due to elevated blood glucose levels and I now have to be careful about my sweet taste indulgences, so it is especially nice knowing that if I do want a sweet flavor once in awhile, Maple Syrup is a preferred substance!

Also, to the O.P., I do hope you share your further journey of exploring and producing Maple Syrup as it would be interesting to read and learn more about your show and tell process! :)

[–]m0dd3r 2 points3 points ago

I also just installed my first taps a few days ago. Happened to see the supplies on an end cap at tractor supply and thought "what the hell?" I'm in RI and it's been pretty warm this winter, so I felt comfortable installing the taps a bit earlier than recommended. Put them (3 taps on 2 trees) in on Sunday night and have gotten a couple of gallons of sap already. May expand to my parents and in-laws house in a couple weeks if things continue to go well. Going to boil down a first test batch this weekend to see how things go. I've got to admit I'm pretty excited.

[–]vtslimzone 5 0 points1 point ago

You're probably right on time for RI, enjoy!

[–]tjwUS-4B, SE MN 2 points3 points ago

we go for the lowest cost investment on new hobbies.

You can usually find used food-grade 5 gallon buckets with covers for free from cafeterias. They work great for collecting maple sap.

[–]Clairepants 2 points3 points ago

Man all of this maple syrup talk makes me want to try this too! Unfortunately I live in CA and it never gets below freezing at night where I am :( Also the minor detail that I live in an apartment. I'll be shelving this idea for the future though. Good luck with the tapping!

[–]Pelokt 2 points3 points ago

When I read "tapped", I think you mean....

[–]DrumlinUS-5B, Northern IL[S] 2 points3 points ago

Well, it has a hole now, and the hole is wet and dripping.

[–]Pelokt 2 points3 points ago

See, now I really think you mean....

[–]closethirdUS Zone 5A WI 2 points3 points ago

I'm tempted to try this also, having inherited two very large silver maples with the house (11 and 13 foot circumferences). However, I'm worried about the amount of work involved in boiling the sap down to syrup. I hear it's something like 40 gallons of sap to get 1 gallon of syrup on a silver maple, which is why most people boil outdoors.

I'd love an update on how the boiling goes, and whether you find any tricks to make it work smoothly.

I'd also like to know where you got your cheap kits. I'm frugal myself too.

[–]kirbs20016b Southeast Pennsylvania 2 points3 points ago

This guy has a great set of videos. I seriously spent all afternoon watching them one time. It convinced me that it is totally within my grasp but requires a big investment in time and equipment.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL30F3DDE2845602EA

[–]mutantgazette 1 point2 points ago

Nice find! Thank you for sharing this. It was so fun watching it I forgot to turn on the regular television. :)

[–]vtslimzone 5 0 points1 point ago

You don't need to make a big investment! For small amounts all you need to buy is a few taps. Hang some old milk jugs on them and boil it down on your woodstove or even kitchen stove. (only a problem when you get into real quantities - excess moisture peeling wallpaper, sticky residue from steam - but definitely not an issue for home scale!)

[–]relaximadoctor 1 point2 points ago

Is it safe for the tree to do this ?

[–]closethirdUS Zone 5A WI 1 point2 points ago

This is the only way to get maple syrup.

[–]vtslimzone 5 0 points1 point ago

Yes, the holes will be completely healed over within a couple years. You shouldn't put a tap into any maple that is less than 18" in diameter, and you should limit the number of taps per tree depending on the size of the tree.

Just like a beekeeper, you're trying to skim off the excess sugar, without taking so much as to stunt next year's growth

[–]kultakala 1 point2 points ago

Sounds exciting - I hope you'll update us on the progress!

What are you using for sap storage while you're waiting to get enough to start boiling down? (Having actually made it, myself, I know it takes nearly 100 gallons of sap to get one gallon of syrup. The place I worked used 19th century techniques, though, so I'm betting storage has changed from "enormous vat slightly uphill from the evaporator". (; )

[–]nadej22 0 points1 point ago

This is so interesting! Please let us know how it turns out.