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[–][deleted] 652 points653 points ago

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Your story reminds me of this story:

Yes, I Gas Dogs and Cats for a Living. I'm an Animal Control officer in a very small town in central North Carolina. I'm in my mid thirties, and have been working for the town in different positions since high school.

There is not much work here, and working for the county provides good pay and benefits for a person like me without a higher education. I'm the person you all write about how horrible I am.

I'm the one that gasses the dogs and cats and makes them suffer. I'm the one that pulls their dead corpses out smelling of Carbon Monoxide and throws them into green plastic bags. But I'm also the one that hates my job and hates what I have to do.

First off, all you people out there that judge me, don't. God is judging me, and I know I'm going to Hell. Yes, I'm going to hell. I wont lie, it's despicable, cold, cruel and I feel like a serial killer. I'm not all to blame, if the law would mandate spay and neuter, lots of these dogs and cats wouldn't be here for me to gas. I'm the devil, I know it, but I want you people to see that there is another side to me the devil Gas Chamber man.

The shelter usually gasses on Friday morning.

Friday's are the day that most people look forward to, this is the day that I hate, and wish that time will stand still on Thursday night. Thursday night, late, after nobody's around, my friend and I go through a fast food line, and buy 50 dollars worth of cheeseburgers and fries, and chicken. I'm not allowed to feed the dogs on Thursday, for I'm told that they will make a mess in the gas chamber, and why waste the food.

So, Thursday night, with the lights still closed, I go into the saddest room that anyone can every imagine, and let all the doomed dogs out out their cages.

I have never been bit, and in all my years doing this, the dogs have never fought over the food. My buddy and I, open each wrapper of cheeseburger and chicken sandwich, and feed them to the skinny, starving dogs.

They swallow the food so fast, that I don't believe they even taste it. There tails are wagging, and some don't even go for the food, they roll on their backs wanting a scratch on their bellys. They start running, jumping and kissing me and my buddy. They go back to their food, and come back to us. All their eyes are on us with such trust and hope, and their tails wag so fast, that I have come out with black and blues on my thighs.. They devour the food, then it's time for them to devour some love and peace. My buddy and I sit down on the dirty, pee stained concrete floor, and we let the dogs jump on us. They lick us, they put their butts in the air to play, and they play with each other. Some lick each other, but most are glued on me and my buddy.

I look into the eyes of each dog. I give each dog a name.

They will not die without a name.

I give each dog 5 minutes of unconditional love and touch.

I talk to them, and tell them that I'm so sorry that tomorrow they will die a gruesome, long, torturous death at the hands of me in the gas chamber.

Some tilt their heads to try to understand.

I tell them, that they will be in a better place, and I beg them not to hate me.

I tell them that I know I'm going to hell, but they will all be playing with all the dogs and cats in heaven.

After about 30 minutes, I take each dog individually, into their feces filled concrete jail cell, and pet them and scratch them under their chins. Some give me their paw, and I just want to die. I just want to die. I close the jail cell on each dog, and ask them to forgive me. As my buddy and I are walking out, we watch as every dog is smiling at us and them don't even move their heads. They will sleep, with a full belly, and a false sense of security.

As we walk out of the doomed dog room, my buddy and I go to the cat room.

We take our box, and put the very friendly kittens and pregnant cats in our box. The shelter doesn't keep tabs on the cats, like they do the dogs.

As I hand pick which cats are going to make it out, I feel like I'm playing God, deciding whose going to live and die.

We take the cats into my truck, and put them on blankets in the back.

Usually, as soon as we start to drive away, there are purring cats sitting on our necks or rubbing against us.

My buddy and I take our one way two hour trip to a county that is very wealthy and they use injection to kill animals.

We go to exclusive neighborhoods, and let one or two cats out at a time.

They don't want to run, they want to stay with us. We shoo them away, which makes me feel sad.

I tell them that these rich people will adopt them, and if worse comes to worse and they do get put down, they will be put down with a painless needle being cradled by a loving veterinarian. After the last cat is free, we drive back to our town.

It's about 5 in the morning now, about two hours until I have to gas my best friends.

I go home, take a shower, take my 4 anti-anxiety pills and drive to work.. I don't eat, I can't eat. It's now time, to put these animals in the gas chamber. I put my ear plugs in, and when I go to the collect the dogs, the dogs are so excited to see me, that they jump up to kiss me and think they are going to play.

I put them in the rolling cage and take them to the gas chamber. They know. They just know. They can smell the death.. They can smell the fear. They start whimpering, the second I put them in the box. The boss tells me to squeeze in as many as I can to save on gas. He watches. He knows I hate him, he knows I hate my job. I do as I'm told. He watches until all the dogs, and cats (thrown in together) are fighting and screaming. The sounds is very muffled to me because of my ear plugs. He walks out, I turn the gas on, and walk out.

I walk out as fast as I can. I walk into the bathroom, and I take a pin and draw blood from my hand. Why? The pain and blood takes my brain off of what I just did.

In 40 minutes, I have to go back and unload the dead animals. I pray that none survived, which happens when I overstuff the chamber. I pull them out with thick gloves, and the smell of carbon monoxide makes me sick. So does the vomit and blood, and all the bowel movements. I pull them out, put them in plastic bags.

They are in heaven now, I tell myself. I then start cleaning up the mess, the mess, that YOU PEOPLE are creating by not spay or neutering your animals. The mess that YOU PEOPLE are creating by not demanding that a vet come in and do this humanely. You ARE THE TAXPAYERS, DEMAND that this practice STOP!

So, don't call me the monster, the devil, the gasser, call the politicians, the shelter directors, and the county people the devil. Heck, call the governor, tell him to make it stop.

As usual, I will take sleeping pills tonight to drown out the screams I heard in the past, before I discovered the ear plugs. I will jump and twitch in my sleep, and I believe I'm starting to hallucinate.

This is my life. Don't judge me. Believe me, I judge myself enough.

[–]joshrulzz 260 points261 points ago

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They will not die without a name.

I lost it here. Fuck.

Good night, reddit.

Fuck.

[–]Cathany 67 points68 points ago

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Ditto. I can't take this right now.

[–]SoMoNoFo 29 points30 points ago

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Fix all your dogs and all your cats - please. There should be no unwanted pets. Ever.

[–]moronometer 39 points40 points ago

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I talk to them, and tell them that I'm so sorry that tomorrow they will die a gruesome, long, torturous death at the hands of me in the gas chamber.

Some tilt their heads to try to understand.

I didn't cry at my grandfather's funeral- but this- damn.

Excuse my while I go play with my dogs (both fixed).

[–]asherrd 24 points25 points ago

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I stopped reading there. I couldn't handle it anymore.

[–]orange_kevin 99 points100 points ago

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I have the respect for this man to give him the dignity of reading every word he had to say; he's a stronger man than all you who couldn't handle reading what he's living.

Edit: Even if this is a fake story, I still have real respect and gave fake-man real dignity.

[–]constipated_HELP 11 points12 points ago

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I read every word. It wasn't even difficult. This doesn't mean I'm stronger.

As the son of Veterinarians, I have built up a tolerance for it. That's hardly a good thing. The simple fact is that people just have no idea that this is going on.

They should take the emotion they feel from the story, and do something. At the very least, give the story the service of never forgetting it.

I don't feel sick, or really very sad when reading this kind of thing. What makes me feel sick is when someone tells me about the $1500 they spent on their new puppy, or how they are unwilling to "mutilate" their dogs or cats. I can't be angry at them, because most of them just don't know. But they still make me sick.

My parents don't accept clients who refuse to spay/neuter their dogs or cats. People give them shit for it all the time, but those people don't matter. It's nice to think they'd change their tune if they only knew.

[–]ghostronin 9 points10 points ago

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This seriously made me tear up at work.

[–]HornyVervet 54 points55 points ago

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Because of the psychological impact on personnel, it is important that personnel comprehend fully the process of an animal's physical reaction to exposure to carbon monoxide. It should be noted that carbon monoxide causes involuntary muscular movements including vocalization as the animal is passing through what is called Stage II of anesthesia. At this point the animal is already unconscious. The first of these stages is analgesia. The majority of medical and veterinary experts feel that any reaction by the animal occurs after this stage and there is a negligible possibility of pain perception. The latter stages of anesthesia and total unconsciousness further substantiate this statement.

Though there's also these requirements for humane treatment which I assume they break some if not all of these:

  • Puppies and kittens under eight weeks cannot be euthanized effectively with carbon monoxide.
  • Sick, old, or injured animals require and deserve special handling and individual caging within the cabinet.
  • The animal should be handled gently and quietly at all times.
  • The cabinet should be kept clean at all times.
  • The cabinet must be designed in such a way as to reduce stress and allow for species and size separation. Animals should never be crowded together or placed with animals already euthanized. Only compatible animals of the same approximate size and of the same species should be placed in the same compartment, and preferably animals should be caged individually.

[–]HeirToPendragon 16 points17 points ago

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Yep, we gotta follow all those rules at my animal lab.

Did you know that guinea pigs have to be kept under the gas longer because they start inhaling and exhaling at a slower pace to stop the intake of the gas?

[–]elbrad0 13 points14 points ago

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Clever bastards..

[–]Weikai 2 points3 points ago

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Actually if anything I'd say they're not as clever as the quick breathing animals that die more quickly.

[–]st_gulik 5 points6 points ago

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Well, if they were in the wild and came across a pocket of CO they could survive passing through it, but a quicker breathing animal like a Chihuahua would probably die.

[–]SoundYouFoundForMe 133 points134 points ago

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I've been lurking on reddit for months, never knowing when to join, what my username should be, etc. This story moved me enough that I created an account, and this gets my first orangered. And the story teller is NOT going to hell, not for the compassion he shows those poor animals :'(

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points ago

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Damn, OP just needs to make that bitch read this.

[–]orbat[!] 17 points18 points ago

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The writing style reminded me a lot of Palahniuk.

[–][deleted] 72 points73 points ago

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It takes a lot to make me cry. I've had two grandparents dies that I never cried for, even though I loved them more than than the world. One of my close friends died last year and the only time I cried for him I was black out drunk one the phone with my best friend from home. I don't even remember it. The story you just told had me crying for a good 15 minutes before I could compose myself and come back over to the computer to reply. I could never handle being you. If someone needs to do that job, I'm glad that someone like you can give these animals something loving and real before they are killed. fuck I'm crying again. I can't type anymore

[–]dhk8 12 points13 points ago

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Geeziz. This is the saddest and most disturbing thing I have ever read. I'm the sort of guy who is unoffended by Goatse and watched two girls and a cup while eating lunch.

Not this. This is unreadable.

None of what I'm saying is a judgment - I admire your honesty and your compassion and your courage. Not something I could do. Not something I want to think about.

[–]MockDeath 10 points11 points ago

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That is heart wrenching.

[–]crusoe 57 points58 points ago

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Get a flip video cam, record deaths, burn to disc, mail to local media.

[–]smpx 28 points29 points ago

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The problem, as the author said, isn't the people who kill the animals. It's the system itself that results in people throwing away small animals or letting them breed out of control. It's the irresponsible who decide to "let fido roam free" when they just don't want to take care of it anymore that's the problem.

[–]Akinos 27 points28 points ago

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I just hugged my cat so hard.

Fuck.

[–]snapple_man 8 points9 points ago

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I have two at home and I don't want to be at work, now. I want to leave. Fuck.

[–]marblar 71 points72 points ago

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But, but... carbon monoxide is an odorless gas.

[–]rockon4life45 61 points62 points ago

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They may put an odor into it similar to science lab methane. So people can detect leaks instead of just passing out and dying.

[–]Dunbeezy 8 points9 points ago

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they do the same to LPG.

[–]mumuzov 162 points163 points ago

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Being colorless and odorless is dangerous for the humans if something happens with the cylinders, an odorizing chemical is mixed to warn of leaks.

[–]jared555 10 points11 points ago

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Depending on what is used to generate the carbon monoxide (whether it is just pure gas or some other chemical reaction) it could add an odor too it. That or a safety thing so they know it is leaking.

Edit: At least according to Wikipedia pure carbon monoxide isn't used. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_euthanasia#Inhalant_anesthetic

[–]Rikkochet 8 points9 points ago

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So is natural gas. That's why they add sulfur.

[–]orbat[!] 7 points8 points ago

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Sometimes an, uh, odorant (is that even a real word?) is added to odorless gases so you can smell the leaks.

[–]UnknownVariable 6 points7 points ago

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odorant (is that even a real word?)

Yep, and it means precisely what you thought it did. :)

[–]orbat[!] 5 points6 points ago

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Yay for deductive reasoning, then.

[–]posty 49 points50 points ago

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I will call this story "His name was Woofy McSqueakcheeks".

This would make a fantastic advertisment for neutering your pet, if it were real.

What always gets me about these hugely emotional stories that reek of an email forward is that there are never any sources.

'journalists' would jump all over this with bells on.

[–]indorock 24 points25 points ago

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If it's for advertorial purposes, it doesn't need to be real. It just needs to be believable, which it is. And it is real, as in gassing stray animals is a reality, I'm guessing 1000s of people across the USA take part in the same weekly ritual as this story describes.

[–]constipated_HELP 13 points14 points ago

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Go jump off a bridge.

Have you ever been to a kill shelter? I have. My parents run a non-profit trap-neuter-release organization. While growing up they made sure I understood why they spent so much of their own money doing this - I had to see where all the perfectly good cats and dogs went who never stood a chance against the millions of expensive purebreds that come from puppy mills.

Whether this single story is true or not does not matter. This situation exists all over. You are doing active harm by suggesting it does not exist. We would all like to believe that, but it simply isn't true.

[–]madvoice 6 points7 points ago

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That was one of the hardest things I Had to read. I am a registered Burmese breeder and I make sure any cats going to new homes are speyed or neutered if not specifically going for stud (I am damn picky as to what cats get used for stud purposes and so far only one person has made the grade).

I have an RSPCA cat as well as a cat that I was given to 'rehome'. She's still here 7 years later. If only more people would spey and neuter their pets and if only breeders would be more responsible with their litters. It brought tears to my eyes :'(

[–]constipated_HELP 15 points16 points ago

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I will probably get downvoted for this, but I believe this should be heard anyway, so here goes.

(Just to let you know, this is not coming from some random guy. My parents are veterinarians, and run a non-profit trap-neuter-release organization)

You are not helping the situation. Even worse, you are not even neutral. You are doing active harm, and spaying those that you sell is simply a way to make yourself feel better.

You play a supporting role in an industry that spikes up prices for cats and dogs, and lets people believe that purebreds are somehow better than mixes or mutts. In reality, selective breeding leads to chronic health problems within individual breeds (granted this is a far larger problem in dogs), and also allows people to buy animals as a type of status symbol, when in reality a purebred is no more valuable than a mix.

This is not going to change you, I know. It is a lifestyle, and I get that. But breeders are the ones causing problems like this story outlines, so at least take responsibility for that.

[–]furixx 14 points15 points ago

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god. that's horrible.

[–]huevosrameros 7 points8 points ago

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everyone should reaad this. i read it on craigslist & bawled. I didn't even know they still used gas to kill animals. it's so horrific.

[–]Adverbly 83 points84 points ago

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Damn, his kill/death ratio must be awesome

[–]OneEyedCheshire 4 points5 points ago

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Thank you kind sir

[–]meatpuppet13 3 points4 points ago

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SPAY AND NEUTER YOUR PETS.

[–][deleted] 1485 points1486 points ago

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They're giving away kittens at the river?

[–]f2x 800 points801 points ago

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For some reason I read that in a 5 year old's voice. I think I'm going to go cry now.

[–]AussiePete 394 points395 points ago

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They'we giving away kittehs at the wiver??

[–]i_post_on_reddit 206 points207 points ago

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I read that in an Aussie accent, the kid effect didn't work :(

[–]AussiePete 173 points174 points ago

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Sowwy...

[–]Lut3s 177 points178 points ago

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You wanna buy my wazer wifle?

[–]videopenis 80 points81 points ago

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Biwwy is that you??

[–]jinglebells 67 points68 points ago

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Fwee Bwian!

[–]glummdead 67 points68 points ago

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Wewease Wodewick!

[–]GrimBaNaNa 39 points40 points ago

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Fwee Woger!

[–]undrway_shft_colors 13 points14 points ago

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WeWease da Secwet weaaapooon!

[–]shiner_bock 26 points27 points ago

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Vewy well! I shall... welease... Bwian!

[–]bakedpatata 20 points21 points ago

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Have you met my fwend Bigus Dickus?

[–]hermes369 8 points9 points ago

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He has a wife, you know...

[–]nobodyspecial 124 points125 points ago

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Nah. Just baptizing them.

[–]anthropodeus 94 points95 points ago

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PERMANENTLY

[–]Shredder13 5 points6 points ago

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They'll be free of sin the rest of their lives. :(

[–]Wallaedes 8 points9 points ago

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Very good idea. So that they'll be with ceiling cat.

[–]number7 3 points4 points ago

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Might be baptism. Might be murder.

Either way they're bound to see the light.

[–]Stan_Darsh 31 points32 points ago

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  • Step 1: Post Craigslist ad for "Wet very young pussy to give away for free at river"
  • Step 2: Chris Hansen
  • Step 3: Why don't you take a seat.

edit: formatting

[–]Shredder13 9 points10 points ago

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Step 4: ????? Step 5: PROFIT!

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points ago* 

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Free candy too, out of the van parked down by THE RIVERR!

edit: Fawk, I need to watch this again. It's probably been about 3 years.

[–]coderascal 22 points23 points ago

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Whoa whoa whoa, Matt Foley was no Pedophile.

[–]I_am_anonymous 18 points19 points ago

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No, but Mark Foley sure tried to be.

[–]jokerr1981 6 points7 points ago

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mick foley was a pedo? thought his dude love character was a bit to free with the love

[–]TheseIronBones 4 points5 points ago

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And into the river we'd dive,

Oh down to the river we'd ride

[–]some_guy_on_drugs 183 points184 points ago

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you shouldn't coddle these people, call them out for the monsters they are.

[–][deleted] 125 points126 points ago

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The druggie is right.

[–]pikpikcarrotmon 14 points15 points ago

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Howard Johnson is right.

[–]KazooSymphony 4 points5 points ago

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advice worth remembering

[–]gratsonbad 178 points179 points ago

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Abortions cost Money, Rivers are Free

[–]larholm 60 points61 points ago

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This is the reason.

[–]Spacksack 20 points21 points ago

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Which all should see.

EDIT: To be read from the top

[–]Gauthaman 129 points130 points ago

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When you do regain your senses, do you think you could ask her - in a very off-handed, friendly, 'we're just making conversation' kind of way - why she would rather dispose of the kittens after their birth and why not just let the doctor take care of it?
Leave it at that, despite the urge to say more, and see what she says. If it is something like 'god said abortions are bad because the fetus is alive' then ask her why wait?
Argh, i dont know if you will ask her these questions but goddamnit i can't understand this mentality.

[–]pissysissy[S] 154 points155 points ago

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I can't even look her in the eye. I am thought of as the weird and eccentric one at work because I'm godless and no children after having been married for 11 years, but this line of thought was beyond my understanding. I cannot see how this, shit, I don't know...

I'm really sad and thinking of offering to foster the kittens though.

[–]MindlessAutomata 65 points66 points ago

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I'm really sad and thinking of offering to foster the kittens though.

Excellent idea. Even if you can't take care of them for an extended period of time, just getting them away from someone who obviously doesn't wish to care for them is a huge thing.

[–]jredbone 148 points149 points ago

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Yeah, he could raise them until they are 18 years old in cat years and then send them off to war.

[–]huxtiblejones 115 points116 points ago

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That or they'll run away and go join some bohemian art college and they'll cut their hair to have flat bangs and they'll talk about shit like how string theory proves souls exist.

[–]clumsymechanic 89 points90 points ago

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string theory barely proves that string theory exists.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points ago

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what. the. fuck?

[–]huxtiblejones 62 points63 points ago

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(I go to a bohemian art college)

[–]Illison 35 points36 points ago

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Wait we are talking about cats right?

[–]huxtiblejones 130 points131 points ago

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I am a cat.

[–]personaldata 46 points47 points ago

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That's the good thing about the internet; no one can tell you are a cat until you tell them.

[–]rhllor 12 points13 points ago

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This you dude?

[–]Mo6eB 11 points12 points ago

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No you are not. Cats speak in lolspeak.

[–]miserablex 25 points26 points ago

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Ah yes, war. It's like super-late term abortion.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points ago

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Well, that's obviously not true at all. If it were, the republicans wouldn't be as dead set on it.

[–]BluthBananaStand 10 points11 points ago* 

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One of my favorite George Carlin lines, something close to, "Christians want live babies so they can raise them up to be dead soldiers."

Edit: Sorry, it's conservatives, not Christians

[–]famousmodification 4 points5 points ago

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You know they'll just end up fighting for the other side, right? Why raise troops for the enemy?

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points ago

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That would indeed be the best thing to do. You may not change her mind, but you can turn it obsolete, at least in this very case. Save the kittens, ignore the girl.

[–]pissysissy[S] 23 points24 points ago

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I wouldn't be able to live with myself otherwise. Thank you.

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points ago

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and turn her in for animal abuse.

[–]lckidwell 11 points12 points ago

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Save the kittens, ignore the girl.

I think that was the original tagline to Heroes.

[–]digijin 26 points27 points ago

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Ask why she thinks murder is better than abortion. Make sure she can't hide from the fact that she is committing murder and reassure herself that its ok.

[–]NM05 14 points15 points ago

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I think The River is a day spa for kittens and their owners.

I believe we need more context.

[–]definitiv 9 points10 points ago

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Ask her if she understands why it's called "pro-life".

[–]CalvinLawson 8 points9 points ago

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yeah, you should foster them. I found a sack-full of dead puppies when I was a kid. Their eyes weren't even opened yet. It sucked.

Shit, why didn't I think of that for the traumatic childhood memories post!?

[–]sudormrf 21 points22 points ago

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I prefer "god-free" to "godless" myself.

[–]DJHWilliams 4 points5 points ago

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I'm sure if you posted on reddit there would plenty of redditors interested in adopting these kittens.

[–]ClassicalFizz 30 points31 points ago

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Reason doesn't affect the majority of peoples views and opinions. If it changes your views, you are in the minority of humanity.

[–]electricAcolyte 30 points31 points ago

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My friend always says you cannot reason people out of what they were never reasoned into. Very smart guy although he ends his aphorisms with prepositions. That's kind of annoying.

[–]knowsguy 18 points19 points ago

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You are allowed to end an aphorism or any other sentence with a preposition without attracting the grammar police, as long as it helps the sentence to make sense.

If it makes sense without a preposition, leave it out. This aphorism would not make sense without "into' at the end, so it's fine.

[–]mwryan 6 points7 points ago

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You should never end a sentence with a preposition at.

[–]TL17 5 points6 points ago

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"This is the kind of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put."

[–]dalore 4 points5 points ago

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When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?

[–]goodreverend 14 points15 points ago

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I take the facts down to the river in a bag.

[–]kc9 398 points399 points ago* 

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That is in a sense animal abuse. You should contact the police. Because this is not a very humane way of doing these things.

Edit: said could instead of should.

[–]lowtolerance 470 points471 points ago

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Drowning kittens because you're too goddamned stupid and irresponsible to get your cat fixed is absolutely animal abuse.

[–]Scurry 68 points69 points ago

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Or putting an ad in the newspaper for free kittens. Our cats had litters all the time when I was a kid. They never stayed around longer than a week. People like kitties.

[–]neecho235 64 points65 points ago

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That's a bold-faced lie! Nobody likes kitties.

[–]sunsunsun 42 points43 points ago

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Good point. In fact, I'm pretty sure there aren't very many pictures of them on the internet.

[–]lameduckdown 5 points6 points ago

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How many pictures are there of you on the internet?

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points ago

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[–]Reddaat 8 points9 points ago

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No, this is a bold-faced lie

Or is it...

[–]Rikkochet 11 points12 points ago

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Or put an ad in the newspaper with her phone number saying they're going to be drowned in the river....

[–][deleted] 117 points118 points ago

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in a sense? abandonment/disposal of live pets is a prosecutable offense.

edit: i wonder if they have the humane society in their town?

[–]revb 48 points49 points ago

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Actually in many places, it is perfectly legal to kill your own pets if you do it in a humane fashion. Drowning in the river probably does not qualify, but a bullet to the head would.

[–]NZFLE 24 points25 points ago* 

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Yea, same thing here in NZ. There was a big thing a while back about how a guy killed and ate his dog because he had no food.

Ended up that he couldn't be prosecuted because he had killed the dog humanely.

Personally, I just don't think I could ever bring myself to eat my own dog but I haven't really been in that situation either.

EDIT: Grammar

[–]asherrd 15 points16 points ago

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I don't think I could ever kill my dog for food even if I were starving and would die without it, but if someone else can I don't really see much wrong with that.

[–]nostradamuz 11 points12 points ago

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People do it with sheep and cows and pigs all the time. Why not dogs.

[–]master_gopher 6 points7 points ago

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Well, if you killed your own cow humanely and ate it, nobody would care (yet some people have pet cows they would never dream of eating). The outrage is pretty much dependent on whether others see the animal as a pet or as food.

[–]fffish 20 points21 points ago

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You should not eat your own gramma.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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no shit. i did not know that.

i mean, our animals would die when i was a kid... once my dad had to put down a dog that was severely injured by a porcupine (and i mean like gruesomely i-wouldn't-want-to-survive-either wounded). i never questioned the legality of that as a child, but i assumed (as an adult) that animal cruelty laws covered it.

[–]revb 9 points10 points ago

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It varies from location to location but especially in rural areas, it is perfectly fine ... so long as it is done in a humane fashion. Think about it, pets are effectively livestock. If you have a cow dying painfully in the field, it would be highly impractical to force someone to get an agent of the state to put it out of it's misery. Within the city limits, however, it can be a different matter. For one thing, most cities have laws against discharging a firearm, so that limits the most straightforward way to be humane (and most cities have animal shelters / vets that can do it with drugs so it is unnecessary)

[–]robywar 4 points5 points ago

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I heard a story on the news yesterday in fact about a guy in Arkansas* who was dying and had his dog put to sleep to be buried with him. It was perfectly legal, even though the dog was completely healthy.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=7314102

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points ago

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Drowning in the river probably does not qualify, but a bullet to the head would.

Protip: Don't use a 12 gauge buckshots on kittens. It's overkill.

I knew a farmer that used to wack their heads off with a hatchet/axe (like a chicken, in fact he used the chicken block). It horrified me as a little kid.

[–][deleted] 75 points76 points ago

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Do this please. Rat her out. Make her suffer for her stupidity, and she'll think twice about doing it again.

[–]Pixelpaws 88 points89 points ago

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Think twice? When was she thinking the first time?

[–]ArcticCelt 13 points14 points ago

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You have a point, to make her think once would be a good start.

[–]Sugarat 9 points10 points ago

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And without a whiff of irony, she'll just become a martyr to her congregation symbolizing the hate of the baby killers.

[–]homophone_police 27 points28 points ago

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We all knew this day would come. We did not heed the warnings, and continued masturbating.

We're all responsible.

[–]kcirtsew 53 points54 points ago

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I've never really understood this issue. I love my dog, and think there's something very wrong with a person who enjoys hurting animals, but as hard as I try I can't stretch my mind around why it's actually immoral as opposed to just distasteful. Most people have no problem with poisoning rats, hunting deer, or slaughtering livestock, which is completely sensible as long as you think there's something fundamentally different about human and animal life. We have language and metacognition, and the position as I've always understood it is that these capabilities afford us self-awareness, something that no other animal has. Their suffering doesn't matter because they really don't experience it in the way we experience our lives.

You're free to disagree with this if you want, but what coherent philosophy leads one to the conclusion that it's ok to do more or less whatever you want to animals, but only if you take some token steps to minimize their suffering?

[–]whitterquick 30 points31 points ago

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I think there is a big difference between poisoning rats (which, tho admittedly i am no expert, i presume merely sends them to sleep, from which they don't wake) and killing deer/livestock which again, presumably in the majority of cases will be quick, than putting newborn cats in a bag and drowning them. That's not very quick and painless. Also, we kill rats for a reason, we kill livestock for a reason, and although i disagree with the practice, we kill deer for entertainment and food. Killing kittens which were a direct result of your own stupidity (twice, i might add) without even trying to find homes for them... I dunno, maybe i'm biased... but if the other examples are animal abuse, then that is the absolute pinnacle, prime example of it (out of the examples given, there are of course far worse things you can do).

[–]bingosherlock 78 points79 points ago

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poisoning rats (which, tho admittedly i am no expert, i presume merely sends them to sleep, from which they don't wake)

I'm not trying to start shit or anything, but rat poison is one of the most horrifying things on the planet. It's not a rat -> dead rat operation. It's a rat -> rat bleeding out through all openings -> slow moving rat -> dead rat operation.

Just saying.

[–]LeRenard 50 points51 points ago

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I had a dog who ate half a box of decon. He came in the house, laid down, and suddenly there was a rapidly expanding circle of blood around him.. he was just draining out right in front of us. The vet was able to save him but it was touch and go.. Lots of Vitamin K and blood transfusions.

[–]Spocktease 10 points11 points ago

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Wow... that's scary shit. Hope you sent the vet a fruit basket.

[–]furixx 16 points17 points ago

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yeah they poison dogs with rat poison in thailand, horrible death. made me so angry i attempted to stay and run an animal shelter, but the problem of stray dogs was just too rampant to keep up with. :(

[–]Deviant1 110 points111 points ago

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put them in a bag and take them to the river like he did last year.

"Like he did last year??" That makes this a serious WTF for me. And makes me rather stabby.

[–]pissysissy[S] 70 points71 points ago

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I KNOW, RIGHT. I was horrified when she said that.

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points ago

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It almost makes it sound like she was joking.

[–]jmiles540 7 points8 points ago

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Me too. I just had to put down my kity this weekend after 15 years together, this thread is making me very sad, but I can't stop reading.

[–]pomo 74 points75 points ago

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WTF is right, I think.

That is just perverted morals. No abortion because that's killing. But killing is OK because it's not abortion. She obviously has no idea what to do or how to think, so she relies on a religion (??) or media (??) to tell her what is right or wrong. Is this person "normal" intellectually or a bit simple?

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points ago

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I had a similar discussion with someone a while ago. They were convinced that all abortion was wrong... including non-human abortion. I could see this point of view from some kind of Christian animal-rights activist. But this makes no fucking sense. If they're going to kill cats anyway... I mean, that's like saying "I can't have an abortion, so I'll just leave the baby in the dumpster." Except (according to her view) cats don't have souls.

I got in the same argument with a pro-life friend in a hypothetical about if a prized-milk cow needed an abortion or it would die. He said it would be wrong to give the cow an abortion. We had this conversation over burgers.

[–]nwtreeoctopus 60 points61 points ago

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I have a hammer if you'd like to bludgeon her. It's the way my god would like it.

[–]magusg 40 points41 points ago

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I like your god.

[–]internetpaladin 55 points56 points ago

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Yeah, Thor's pretty badass.

[–]Saevio 3 points4 points ago

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Seconded. If you're a god and your hammer has a name, it's pretty damn badass.

[–]frezlre 39 points40 points ago

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Is there any chance she actually has an awesome sense of humour and you've been trolled?

[–]SugarWaterPurple 3 points4 points ago

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Seriously, I say shit like that all the time but I don't mean it... I loves ma kitteh.

[–]KorgRue 28 points29 points ago

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You got trolled. Enjoy your kittens.

[–]junk2006 7 points8 points ago

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So thats how you get rid of kittens

[–]campkev 18 points19 points ago

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I think you picked the right spot. Atheist, Christian, Muslim, Wiccan, anybody with half a functioning brain would have said WTF to that

[–]earnestrapture 10 points11 points ago

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Somebody needs to put her and Tim in a bag and take them down to the river.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points ago

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I think she was being sarcastic and you took it at face value.

[–]atc 6 points7 points ago

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She has to be joking.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points ago

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Real life troll is talented

[–]Fauster 39 points40 points ago

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Sounds like typical right wing fanatic. Abortionists are murderers, but giving kids and mothers free health insurance so they don't die is treasonous socialism.

[–]pissysissy[S] 13 points14 points ago

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Thank you! It is the total disregard of life; I am flummoxed.

[–]vanuhitman 6 points7 points ago

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You know, if you can't cure the stupid that has been drilled into her brain, you should probably do your best to keep her out of the gene pool.

TV AD

Have your dumbass spayed or neutered!

[–]beta_pup 29 points30 points ago

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Seriously, contact the humane society. She should not have a cat (or a child!!!).

[–]pissysissy[S] 32 points33 points ago

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I will offer to foster any of the kittens, don't worry. I've already discussed this with my husband.

[–]revb 28 points29 points ago

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That might have been her goal. I once got someone to adopt an entire litter of kittens by threatening to shoot them if no one wanted them.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points ago

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You're a charming human being.

[–]revb 10 points11 points ago

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Why thank you!

[–]the_feld 9 points10 points ago

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I'd have asked if I could shoot one or two....

[–]scrimsims 11 points12 points ago

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I used to be in property managment and I had a resident that was special. Her cat had kittens and she same in every day for a week asking if I wanted the last one. I kept saying no and one day she came in holding it by the neck and saying it was going to die.

I took the kitten home. The resident would come in after that with crayon drawings of the kitten for me ...

[–]beta_pup 4 points5 points ago* 

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THAT is really GREAT to hear! I would love to send you a donation if it comes to fruition.

I'd still look into talking to the Humane Society. She's an irresponsible cat owner. She failed to get her cat spayed twice. You can't keep taking in her kittens. Just sayin'! Sorry, my dad worked for the ASPCA. I'm hardcore like that! :-)

[–]amykuca 48 points49 points ago

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As a Christian I assure you that she does not speak for all of us. We are not at all senseless zombies created by a church. I find the bag & river trick horrifying!

[–]apoc680 9 points10 points ago

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God I feel bad for the kid who finds that bag.

[–]ender4171 4 points5 points ago

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Send me one I'll give it a good home. Also you need to give "Tim" a good kick in the junk. I can assist with that as well.

[–]Bodhinature 5 points6 points ago

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Did you ask her why she has no problem murdering a bag of kittens?

[–]cj1127 3 points4 points ago

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Do we blame this on individual stupidity? Nah, let's blame organised religion!

[–]watermark0n 6 points7 points ago

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If you absolutely must kill your pets, use a shotgun or take them to the doctor. For the love of god, don't drown them. That's torturing them and it's disgusting. I think people who do things like that need to be arrested.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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My father threw a couple strays into the river behind our house, made me shoot my own cat in the head because it had ringworm, aaaaand of course I trapped coons and such for their hides to make money when I was in high school. We also killed deer and quail, we fished often and ate what we caught...My dad also shot a couple stray cats in the back yard with a .22 but you know he grew up on a farm during the Depression and there were stray cats all over the place so the idea of killing a cat really didn't cross his mind as somehow "cruel" compared to the shit people do to each other in WWII....you fucking bunch of pussies.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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"She is so brainwashed by her church and Christianity that it is OK to kill the kittens after they are born as long as she is not party to an abortion."

Props to you for taking the kittens! I hope you find loving owners for all of them.

However, you're wrong to say that her church and Christianity are "brainwashing" her to think that it is ok to kill the kittens. It is very unlikely that anyone in her church has ever mentioned how animals should be treated.

If they ever did, they would be under the obligation to regard the following proverb: "A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel." Proverbs 12:10

There are many passages in the Bible that describe the great consideration God gives animals (if you feel that there is an appropriate occasion, you can mention this link to your friend): (http://www.frontline.org.za/articles/animals.htm)[http://www.frontline.org.za/articles/animals.htm]

[–]Codeegirl 13 points14 points ago

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My biological mother was fanatical born again Christian. She is also the most cruel/vicious person I've met in my life. When she was "christian" she used to torture my animals and myself. She once flushed a litter of newborn kittens down the toilet.

Some people are just FUCKED and deserve what they do to other living things.

[–]hackysack 9 points10 points ago

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Don't worry. They'll just grow into catfish.

[–]ninjapowersaquasatan 13 points14 points ago

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Kitten abortions are the cutest abortions.

[–]McEpicQuote 8 points9 points ago

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Christianity says nothing about it being better to kill the kittens after theyre born than to have them aborted. that girl is just really dumb.

[–]Confucius_says 3 points4 points ago

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I'm hoping she was using sarcasm and you are just bad at detecting sarcasm.

[–]cryingeyes 2 points3 points ago

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I am sorry for the kittens and you. Try adopting them for a shelter to re-home? I would avoid that girl except for meaningless sex hereafter.

[–]Early_Cuyler 4 points5 points ago

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You should tell her you will take the kittens and give them to someone who is not a retard.

[–]jmcentire 2 points3 points ago

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Does she eat eggs?

[–]lse138 2 points3 points ago

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That's felonious, at least in California.

[–]mastertwisted 3 points4 points ago

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I think her logic is affected by racial memory. It goes back to the days when the Romans put the Christians in an arena with big "kittehs".

Ah, good times.

[–]phreaklegion 5 points6 points ago

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The real question: is the cat married? Where is the father cat in all this?

[–]b1narys0l0 4 points5 points ago

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I can't understand the mentality of someone who does not believe in abortion, but can turn a blind eye and have a living thing killed as long as it is not by her hand....that is just evil, or whatever you want to call it, to me.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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Total WTF. Does she realize she is still killing babies? She is murdering innocent beings. That is SO NOT CHRISTIAN!

[–]vitaebella 2 points3 points ago

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This is disgusting. What the fuck, indeed. What in the hell is wrong with people?

I'm so happy to hear you're going to take the kittens. Hell, if I didn't live in a dorm, I'd come and get a few of them myself and take care of them.

Even though this story is largely about such an insensitive moron, it makes me feel better to know that there are good people like you who will do something about it.

As others have, I urge you, please contact the police or the ASPCA and see if they can do anything. People like this should not be allowed to own pets. It's disgusting.

[–]adlittle 4 points5 points ago

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Oh my lack of god...who the fuck still drowns kittens?! If it weren't for the poster kindly taking the kittens they would be better off if they were "aborted" than thrown in a river to drown. Good for you mate, I hope you can either find good homes for them or be a good home for them. Also, more people should get their pets spayed or neutered...it seems to be really rare around here, even more rare than when I lived in the U.S.

[–]amandatoryy 3 points4 points ago

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omgomgomg I WILL KILL HER

or take a kitty for you :)

[–]daveloper 2 points3 points ago

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i think wtf is the appropriate expression here

[–]psychonumber1 4 points5 points ago

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kittens make good bait for large fish, such as sturgeon. just fyi

[–]AROSSA 2 points3 points ago

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I remember when I was a kid and I found a burlap sack of kittens in the creek. Fucked up. I don't think I could have handled hearing that. Especially not the part about not taking them to a doctor and just drowning them instead.

[–]layout420[!] 3 points4 points ago

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She sounds like a big hypocrite. You seem like a good person, very nice of you to take those kittens. I am sure you will find a good home for them. People like you make the world a little better 1 act of kindness at a time. Thanks.