this post was submitted on
171 points (78% like it)
236 up votes 65 down votes
all 127 comments

[–]julieb123 157 points158 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Yep, and when I hear people laugh, I fear they're laughing at me.

[–]courtiebabe420 38 points39 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Good, I'm not alone.

I always feel judged/made fun of/talked about, whenever I'm in a public place, especially when I'm alone. And if there is laughing, and I'm not a part of the conversation, they have to be laughing at me.

It's irrational, I know, but it's how I feel.

[–]btirabail 15 points16 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Me too. I have a hard time going places alone because of this. Everything inside screams to just get out of there and go home. I hate it. I can feel myself turn red, my heartbeat go up, etc.

My logic tells me I'm being paraniod and I know it's true, so I stick it out and get my errands done. Oh, how I hate crowed or public places!

[–]rabidhamster87 8 points9 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I feel this way too! I went to a tailgate with my boyfriend and his friends last night and was miserable the whole time because I had myself convinced they all hated me, wanted me to leave, and were going to talk badly about me when I was gone. :(

[–]btirabail 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Yes it's bad with my hubby's friends too. Some of them are ok once I get used to them, but the majority I feel the same as you just described when I'm around them.

[–]jennaberry 5 points6 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Have you been diagnosed with social anxiety?

[–]btirabail 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

No...I had never even once thought of it that way 'til very recently, when a friend of mine posted an awareness video about it on his facebook, and I realized that I had many of the indications, though much more mildly than portrayed in the video.

It's only for that one specific area - out and about in big open places with lots of people. Some parties too. I can control myself - but it's so miserable and nerve-wracking for me. For instance, the grocery store is easier for me than the mall, because the multiple, narrow aisles make me feel less exposed. I could always get up and do speeches in high school (I would be nervous, but no more than anyone else) because: I am confident in my intellectual abilities, knew my classmates well (seeing as it was a smaller school and not much of a turnover/new addition rate,) and the classes were, of course, very small.

I've always thought it was a bit too much 'hit and miss' for me to actually go and see someone about it. I have always considered it extreme shyness coupled with a bad self image, and have therefore told myself to buckle up and deal with it.

[–]julieb123 8 points9 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

How I feel, too. It's so annoying.

[–]wondering_person[S] 22 points23 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I felt like that before as well.

[–]foreveracouchpotato 15 points16 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Me too. And whenever I walk past people whispering I think they're talking about me.

[–]Lisbeth_S 8 points9 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I got a Magic Hat bottle cap that said "Say only nice things and need never whisper." I'm trying...Meanwhile I just assume people have personal issues. Much easier to go through life thinking it's NOT about me.

[–]Biancabean 4 points5 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Oh God yes! In high school one of the dreamiest guys was really digging me. He would tell me how pretty I was, we would share behind the school kisses and all the other girls just didn't understand why he liked me. I remember the entire time feeling like he was just pranking me and when he'd ask me out it would be like in one of those movies where he embarrasses me in front of the entire school by throwing fruit punch on my dress :'[ Yeah, kind of sad now that I look back how low my self-esteem was.

[–]FredsGotSlacks 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Something similar happened to me when I was in middle school except in my situation, it was truly a big joke and several guys participated. So to this day I refuse to believe anything positive people have to say about my looks, even when my husband tells me he thinks I'm beautiful.

[–]Biancabean 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

What! That is horrifying. How mean :[

That is truly crazy talk that you feel that way when your husband compliments you. He wouldn't have married you if he wasn't crazy about you! I'm sorry you feel that way sometimes

[–]hms_surprise 4 points5 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

me too :( i'm always CERTAIN of it.

[–]ANAL_ANNIHILATOR 4 points5 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Same, whenver I hear a group of women laugh. I always think they are laughing at me. :(

[–]cp5184 6 points7 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

That's just perfectly ordinary paranoia. Everyone in the universe has that.

[–]ParanoidAngel 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Anxiety cat

[–]secretzombie 46 points47 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Can I share a small observance? I'm from Australia, and recently travelled to the US for a month. Over here, when I get yelled at on the street from passing cars, or random guys walking along, it's usually something like this: "You're ugly!" "You're a fucking bitch!" "Show us your tits you dog!"

So when I got to the US and everywhere I went, I got guys saying "damn girl, you so beautiful. Look at your eyes. I love your face. Smile for me gorgeous." I couldn't help but giggle every time. I'm sure that if you live with that every single day of your life, of course it gets frustrating to hear. But man, it was such a refreshing change to hear some NICE catcalls. I was really blown away by that cultural difference.

Also, I'm not meaning to say that you ladies in the US shouldn't feel uncomfortable when you get catcalled - it still sucks. That was just an observance of mine.

[–]headpigeons 9 points10 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I'm from Australia, I rarely get anything like that yelled at me where I live (small coastal town) but whenever I go to a city it's a common occurrence. It's always ridiculous shit, like yelling something to their mates like "Let's all get that hot chick's numbaaaa!".. Does that ever work? They certainly get embarrassed when you ask them that.
Last week my female friend and I had a long drive and pulled over and sat on the side of the road, surrounded by bush, for a rest. A car full of guys drove past and one yelled out "Wee-wee time!" Haha, better than the usual.

[–]prettybitchin 9 points10 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I asked some guy that question the other day. My friend and I walked into this sushi restaurant and the dude behind the counter (scrawny little asian wearing Bono shades) says "Daaaaaamn... Wusss. Up. Shawty." I said "Does that ever work? Do you ever pick up chicks saying that shit?" and he got so taken aback and confused. I just felt extra badass that day because I was wearing some kickass boots. So I rolled with it. Nancy Sinatra FTW!

[–]thebluesaracudas 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Yes! I'm glad someone else understands the power of a good pair of boots :)

[–]secretzombie 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Haha wee-wee time! That's kinda cute. I've lived in Townsville, Brisbane, and in the country about two hours out of Brisbane, and I've experienced it in all places. Townsville was probably the worst.

[–]jennaberry 3 points4 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Townsville

Omfg.

[–]secretzombie 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I'm the one with the black hair.....

[–]ickjui 11 points12 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

This may be the first and only bad thing I've heard about Australia. It is my escape route for when things get unbearable in the US (and it gets closer every day...).

[–]3EyedAlienOOooOOhh 16 points17 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Surely you've heard of the spiders... D:

[–]ickjui 9 points10 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Spiders I fear not. I am the 1% _____^

[–]secretzombie 3 points4 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Awww the spiders you can learn to live with. I mean...you HAVE to learn to live with.

[–]starsspinningdizzy 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

yay! I'm the 1% too. spiders don't bother me one little bit.

[–]vivalakellye 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

No, but I HAVE heard of the cyclones, and I am not impressed with what they did to banana prices this year.

[–]fonetiklee 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

[–]RobotHeather 3 points4 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

As an American XX who recently moved to Australia I have to agree. It has given me a new perspective on catcalling, not to say that I now think it's glorious but I guess I wasn't so aware of how the form it takes is rooted in the local culture.

[–]SineadNZ 4 points5 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I really noticed a difference between men in Aus/NZ and the USA. I now live in Chicago, married an American man, and I have to say, American men seem to be way more chivalrous and gentleman-like. Not to mention people in general, who are just over all way more polite. I remember being blown away when at LAX airport I went into a store and the cashier called me ma'am.

[–]AMerrickanGirl 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Ma'am? How old are you? Nobody ever called me "ma'am" until I reached my 40s. Before that, they called me "Miss". I miss being called "Miss".

[–]Damey 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Here in the south, there is no "Miss" for an adult. After about 18/19, you turn into a Ma'am. And you're always Ma'am here from the perspective of service workers. My 9 year old has been called ma'am.

When I worked in California, I made the distinction between Miss and Ma'am...except I called everyone Miss. I hate being called ma'am. Makes me feel all...military.

[–]AMerrickanGirl 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Ma'am makes me feel old.

[–]SineadNZ 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I was 19 when this was said. Not offended by being called ma'am, it was pretty polite and nice I think!

[–]Biancabean 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Oh my god! Men in Australia say those things to people?! That is absolutely horrible and downright mean. I'm sorry you have had to put up with that :[

[–]froderick 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I live in Australia (Western Sydney). Do you mind if I ask which part of Australia you live in? Because I still find it hard to comprehend that people anywhere, especially here, yellat women on the street.

[–]secretzombie 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Have lived in Brisbane, Townsville, and in the country outside Brisbane. Worst place was Townsville.

[–]dazzlinvan[!] 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Where is the US have you experienced this?

[–]secretzombie 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

It was in Seattle and New Orleans that I spent the most time.

[–]refenestration 36 points37 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I have a guy friend who is always telling random strangers they're beautiful. He's never kidding or making fun of anyone either. He just wants to make people smile. Just another point of view.

[–]wondering_person[S] 11 points12 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

That's sweet. :)

[–]SquareRoot -4 points-3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

But not sincere. :(

[–]TheSilverLining 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Just because he says it to make them smile doesn't automatically mean he's lying. It's perfectly possible to consider someone beautiful and to want to make them smile at the same time.

[–]SquareRoot -3 points-2 points ago*

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Of course it's perfectly possible. I never said that he was "lying". It's just not sincere. There's a big difference between "not being sincere" and "lying".

Here is the quote: "I have a guy friend who is always telling random strangers they're beautiful."

Right. I realize it's a nice thing to do (since he"just wants to make people smile"), but to do it every time just makes those comments insincere, even if the intention is good.

[–]TheSilverLining 1 point2 points ago*

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

How does it make it insincere? First of all, "always" is generally used as meaning "often" [edit: in sentences about habits such as this one, to clarify] so we cannot know for sure if she means her friend does it to every beautiful stranger he meets. And even if it was every single beautiful stranger... how does that make it less sincere?

[–]bmidge 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I agree that with the always vs. often thing, but you could argue that it's insincere because she said that he was doing it because he wanted to see people smile. That's the interpretation of his actions though, maybe he was saying it because he thinks that they should know that they are beautiful and has nothing to do with the reward of the smile. I don't really know, it's not really worth arguing over though.

[–]TheSilverLining 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I see what you mean. I think that if he only does it because he wants to make them smile it's insincere, but if he does it because he wants to make them smile and because he thinks they are beautiful it's sincere (no matter how often he does it).

[–]refenestration 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Just a little clarification- he only says it to girls he actually thinks are pretty. He's just genuinely a good guy who's really outgoing.

[–]bmidge 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I agree that with the always vs. often thing, but you could argue that it's insincere because she said that he was doing it because he wanted to see people smile. That's the interpretation of his actions though, maybe he was saying it because he thinks that they should know that they are beautiful and has nothing to do with the reward of the smile. I don't really know, it's not really worth arguing over though.

[–]SquareRoot -5 points-4 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

You want to argue semantics, sure, I'll bite.

I'm not sure if English is your native language, but "always" is never used to imply "often".

And even if it was every single beautiful stranger... how does that make it less sincere?

No, re-read what the OP said. I'll repeat the quote for you one more time: "I have a guy friend who is always telling random strangers they're beautiful."

"[Always telling] [random strangers] [they are beautiful]" is not the same as "[often telling] [beautiful strangers] [they are beautiful]". See the difference?

If you are unable to comprehend the difference, and want to continue arguing over petty semantics based on wrong assumptions, that's fine. Carry on then.

[–]TheSilverLining 3 points4 points ago*

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Always is never used to mean often? So, when someone says "It always rains when I'm wearing sandals" or "I swear, I always forget to bring a shopping list when I go to the store", they literally mean every single time? If you really think that's true, I wonder what planet you live on. "X is always doing Y" doesn't have to be literal, but can indicate X frequently doing Y, so frequently that it's generalized as being always.

Either way, the frequency of an action or an utterance is not directly related to the sincerity of it. Him doing it often can mean that he's not sincere, but it doesn't have to mean it, so you are still wrong.

And yes, I can comprehend the difference.

[–]Faraday07 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

but "always" is never used to imply "often".

Bullshit. It is all the time (see what I did there)

Also your tone is very condescending. You know you don't have to be that way right? People will disagree with you sometimes; no need to treat them like crap for doing so.

[–]bmidge 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

"Always" definitely can be used to imply "often". So I don't really think it's appropriate for you to be critiquing that person's semantics.

[–]Aynielle 14 points15 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I feel like, as women, we are brought up with such self-destructive tendencies, when it comes to our own self-esteem, that it's hard for most of us to imagine that anyone thinks we are beautiful. My boyfriend and I have been together for over 3 years, and I know he finds me attractive yet, when he compliments me, my first response is "No, I'm not," or some sort of deflecting comment. It's sad.

[–]annjellicle 3 points4 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I used to do that. Then, a guy I was dating at the time (many years ago) said (basically) that if he compliments me, and I say "no, I look bad today" or "I'm not really... (pretty or whatever)" that I was questioning his taste and judgment. Like, saying he had bad taste or standards, because after all, he was dating me. This stuck with me and I don't even think things like that anymore. Just say thank you. :-)

[–]wondering_person[S] 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I do this too. I try not to do it though since it irritates him, and I know he does find me attractive.

[–]Aynielle 5 points6 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

It's usually "No, I'm a..." then he gives me the "are you fucking serious?" look and I say "What I meant to say is 'Thank you.'" lol

[–]svalerii 8 points9 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

i always assume they're making fun of me and get really offended. or that they're talking to someone else.

[–]gweezer 8 points9 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

That WAS how it was for me. The popular kids at the high school I went to all had a running joke to ask me out because "oh look, the uggo thinks she has a chance. How quaint!", There was one guy in particular who did it every single day, and his group of close friends did it quite often, then I would be 'asked out' by other random popular kids every once in a while. In other words, there were at least 20 different people who have 'asked me out' and it would happen at least once a day. I'm not exaggerating when I say it was the running joke

It lasted from the first day my freshman year, until halfway through my senior year when I decided I couldn't fucking handle it anymore and went homeschooled.

Now I can't get enough of it when guys flirt with me. I'm married, and would never even think about cheating, but it feels nice to hear it from someone who has never needed to say it. I don't know if I grew into my body, or if it's because I have slowly been building my confidence, but it seems to please the random masses. I know I should be offended by cat calls, but I gotta say....it feels damn good.

[–]maycausedrowsiness 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I just posted a comment about this before seeing this comment. I got asked out for laughs too, but not as often as you. I'm really sorry. It hurts a lot.

[–]wondering_person[S] 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I'm glad everything turned out well :)

[–]lavender_ 6 points7 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

This happens to me sometimes. I'm a pretty confident person, but sometimes I just have "those days".

[–]osulip 7 points8 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Yes. First I look around and see if there is any other girl the catcaller could have been yelling at. If I'm the only one around. I assume they're joking or just didn't actually see me...they just saw some sort of lady-figure and are just that lonely.

[–]harmonixx 13 points14 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

It looks like I am the first person to say "No!"
It gives me confidence and stuff. And the compliment that guy yelled at you wasn't even sexual or anything, it's a lot classier than most catcalls I've received.

[–]wondering_person[S] 11 points12 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I know I know. It's just I'm pale and overweight. I guess I assume it's a joke by default.

[–]harmonixx 11 points12 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I don't exactly have what one would call classic beauty, either. But you gotta remember beauty is subjective! Maybe I'm just too gullible but if someone compliments me, I just believe them.
Can't hurt =]

[–]MrsReznor 7 points8 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

This is a great way to look at it :)

[–]Lisbeth_S 5 points6 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

[–]bluescrew 3 points4 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I'm pale and overweight but it has never occurred to me to question that men are sexually attracted to me. They're hardwired to be. I take catcalls at face value.

The people who really tear down my self-esteem are other women.

[–]uberhellie 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I know it probably doesn't help, but pale & overweight ≠ not beautiful. It sounds cheesy, but beauty isn't just one thing. There's so many people I look at and think they're gorgeous, and each one's been different. It's not just looks, either. I think the way some people carry themselves makes them so attractive.

Just thought I'd tell you that because I feel exactly the same way as you do sometimes but just need to remind myself that beauty, as harmonixx said, is subjective. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. :)

[–]wondering_person[S] 4 points5 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Thank you :) When I shared my thoughts with my fiance he was like "You know not all guys like the same thing".

[–]chrelibar3 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Overweight? Nuh-uh, girl. :) Say "curvaceous" and "more to love." You are beautiful.

[–]MalaTae 4 points5 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

When people make eye contact with me on the street i always try to subtly check if there's food all down my clothes or I forgot to put on shoes...

[–]navaer 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Whenever this happens, I become terrified that my makeup/skin is messed up. My skin has a history of doing weird things unexpectedly and making me look somewhat diseased. (For example, flaking like crazy and only emphasized by the coverup or becoming very red.)

[–]UltionisShadow 5 points6 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

This I do get, I also get a pang of fear that they are going to come try and talk to me or touch me. I then feel sick and hurry away.

I have no reason to feel like this, but i seriously fear strangers complimenting me in public, the louder they say it, the worse I feel.

[–]thenewunkindness 6 points7 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I think so too. Mostly because guys have bullied me since middle school :(

[–]SpiderFan 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

That's the feeling i get about certain girls I've tried to flirt with. What's going on?

[–]wondering_person[S] 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

you mean like the girl thinks you're making fun of her?

[–]SpiderFan 4 points5 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Something like that. Maybe making fun isn't the right term. As if they don't really believe I'm interested in them.

[–]wondering_person[S] 8 points9 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Maybe she thinks you're out of her league? I'm sorry about that though I hope she gets the message :)

[–]6seaotter6 3 points4 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

it happens all the time

[–]zluruc 27 points28 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Guys hitting on you are invading your space. They're not in it to genuinely compliment you as a person. It's a form of objectification. And if guys are in a group and catcall, it's usually because they're trying to impress each other, not you.

In other words--it's an insult.

[–]21Celcius 12 points13 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Geez. That is a pretty negative spin

[–]zluruc 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Well, it's a pretty negative practice.

[–]navaer 14 points15 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Upvotes for this.

If a guy really wanted to tell you that he thought you were beautiful, he would approach you and say it to you instead of shouting in through the crowd. He would show you respect.

Catcalls are degrading and nothing more.

[–]Syntaximus 12 points13 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

A non-ribald catcall is still a catcall. If he had more tact then there wouldn't be any ambiguity.

[–]ThunderstormLullaby 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Depends. I was in a BAND UNIFORM today going to the field for the show and someone from the stands that I passed said "hey, you're pretty!". Usually I take it as a compliment, unless the people look like they're douchebags. And then just ignore it, don't let them get to you.

[–]cp5184 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Did you think that the band uniforms made the guys you were attracted to ugly?

[–]ThunderstormLullaby 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

No; the uniforms are just not particularly flattering on anyone's body. All you can see is face, if you're close enough. I've dated my share of band guys, and they all look good in uniform, but I've seen them outside of uniform (unlike this rando, whom I've never seen before).

[–]Muficita 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Ten years ago I would've assumed he was either making fun of me or talking to someone else. I'm 35 now and I believe in my beauty. Doesn't hurt that my husband also believes in it and tells me so frequently.

[–]nightstrike 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I used to get offended and give them the quit shitting me look until I was like 17yrs old. But ever since I got to university I've never felt more comfortable in my own skin and I didn't do anything different between HS and College.

Now I just take it as a compliment and return with a compliment of my own. But I do have plenty of girl friends now who are this way and I admit to getting very irritated with them and sometimes thinking they're just fishing for compliments. I think its ridiculous how many women don't see themselves as beautiful or continue to deny it even when those around them swear that they are indeed beautiful.

[–]serrabellum 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

When I was in high school, I had a guy tell me my voice was very sexy and I nearly punched him in the face (balled up fist and all). This is due to years upon years of being made fun of for having a lisp. He was actually complimenting me, and since then I have tried to actively understand that, yes, I am indeed an attractive person.

So are you :)

[–]Hyonam 2 points3 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

There are some girls in my class' at college that I just genuinely want to compliment. For example a girl in my Japanese class always looks amazing every day and I want to tell her that without it being more then a compliment or me coming off creepy, and there is another girl in my eastern religions class that has the most beautiful hair I've seen to date. As a guy with no ulterior motives can I compliment them? I'm assuming its all in how I say it.

[–]AMerrickanGirl 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

It's better to be specific and compliment something she has control over, such as "I love how you've styled your hair today" or "That's a pretty sweater" vs something she's just born with, like "You look beautiful".

[–]Marzhia 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

As a rule of thumb, unless you're trying to pick a woman up, you shouldn't say anything to her that you wouldn't say to a man.

Complementing someone you don't know on her looks is objectifying. Don't do it.

[–]Valintiin 4 points5 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Yes! Everyone is like, in disbelief... but I've never seen myself as "pretty".

[–]chrelibar3 5 points6 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Okay darn it all after reading this post AND all the comments on the thread I only have one thing to say...: ALL OF YOU ARE DROP DEAD GORGEOUS AND BEAUTIFUL WOMEN. DON'T LET ANYONE MAKE YOU THINK OTHERWISE AND DO NOT THINK LESS OF YOURSELF. YOU ARE ALL AMAZING AND INCREDIBLY WORTH IT.

[–]anindefinitearticle 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Listen to chrelibar3, she speaks the truth!!

[–]peace72012 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I do this as well. :-\

[–]CastleAargh 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I always awkwardly look around for the person I assume they must be talking to. And then i just cringe at my actions haha

[–]CmdrCutie 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I don't know if I'm just being a paranoid parrot, or if people look at me a lot in public and at school o_O In those moments, I'm not sure if I look good or look terrible...

[–]kit10mit10s 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Aww! I love this! Personally, I'm a fan of positive comments, so whenever i'm out and about (and with the help of a little alcohol) I LOVELOVELOVE shouting compliments at people. I don't even have to be driving! I like seeing people smile.

And, I totes know what you mean. Whenever a guy shouts at me, i feel like it's insincere, and it's really not their fault. It's really my own head that messes with me in these situations. I normally give a sheepish grin and walk away as quickly as possible... but! if i'm feeling sassy, i give a huge kick in the air and say, "THANKS, DUDE!" and strut away. :P

[–]eyodir 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

The one and only time in my life anyone gave me any indication that they thought fondly of me (a girl approached me and told me she had a friend that thought I was cute), my knee-jerk reaction was a cavalcade of fear and panic, quickly followed by a nervous, dismissive laugh and the unbearable flood of doubt and suspect that I was someone's joke.

In a way, I feel guilty, like I potentially turned down someone in some terrible second-hand chain of information, who was probably just as terrified and neurotic of the prospective attention as I was.

It's self loathing for me. I know myself so closely, so completely, and that intimate relationship is an eternally sinking ship . So how can anyone else ever really say anything good about me, and at that, complete strangers? They don't know the depths of me, so how could they ever say anything and mean it?

[–]Mephistia 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Yes. In fact, I've started making a real effort to just say, "Thank you," instead of responding with, "Ha, thanks, but I look awful." I've noticed this is a recurring trend among many women, to deny compliments (and then, in my case, complain when my husband doesn't compliment me). I've discussed it with both males and females, and the consensus seems to be:

  • Females: Don't even realize, most of the time, that they're refuting compliments. Think they're being humble/ honest/ realistic.
  • Males: Frustrated with women who, when they're complimented, basically send the message to the compliment-giver that they (the compliment giver) is stupid and blind (by refusing the compliment).

Lesson learned: When someone tells me I write well, or that I'm really smart, or that my hair/ make-up/ clothing looks awesome, or that they love my smile/ eyes/ laugh, I do not respond with, "Thanks, but so-n-so writes better," or, "Oh, no, so-in-so is much smarter!," or "Oh, so-n-so wears this a lot better than I do," or, "Have you seen so-n-so? She looks awesome today."

I respond with a smile and a thank you. That is all. No need to comment with my own thoughts on the situation.

[–]newcomplaint 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Yes, although I know I'm attractive. I have social anxiety, so, if I hear someone whistle or holler at me, I think they're making fun of me. I start to question whether they thought I was attractive or they just though I was weird. But fuck them, I have an awesome boyfriend.

[–]Ishmael999 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Yeah, I definitely don't think of myself as attractive.

[–]juzoe 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

most definitely. if i ever catch a guy looking at me i stop at the next bathroom i pass to make sure that my makeup isn't smeared or there isn't like a bug on my face or something...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I totally feel like this. It's like, there's NO way he would have the balls to say that and be serious.

[–]maycausedrowsiness 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Yes, except not with catcalls. I rarely can understand what's being shouted at me (usually coming from cars driving by). When I was in middle/high school, if a guy asked me out, I thought he was making fun of me (and sometimes he most definitely was). It was a game a lot of assholes would play for laughs. He/she would go up to someone who's an outsider and/or unattractive, ask the person out, and go back to his/her table of friends, laughing. Fucking kids. grumble grumble...

[–]AMerrickanGirl 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Take it at face value and learn how to smile prettily and say "Thank you very much". It's best to never assume that you know another person's motives anyway.

[–]ieatdinosaurs 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

If anyone ever hit on me, I might be able to tell you :( Nah just kidding. 'You're beautiful' is an odd thing to yell at someone on the street (as opposed to 'you're so hot babay'), but a nice one. I'm sure you are beautiful. <3

[–]nameless_faceless 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

When I was younger, yes. No one looks at me anymore because I am 44... sniff, sniff. But 20 years ago, I always worried that people were making fun of me.

[–]eugenedubbed 1 point2 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I live in a rural part of South America, where I am the only white person in probably a 3 hour driving radius. I hear things like this about 30 times a day and I just weant to PUNCH them. I have to ignore it of course, and most of the time I just barely even hear it anymore (it's been almost a year and a half here now) but it builds up and sometimes I just want to kill everyone, or else just crawl in my bed and never show my face here again.

Holaaa, gringaaaa, que bonitaaaa, tus ojoooos, preciosa, princesa.... All at once sometimes. Kill me please.

[–]32_flavors 1 point2 points ago

Oh, I feel you on this one. I am living in China and frequently get comments on my appearance and constant stares, since I'm a tall white woman. I, too, alternate between never wanting to leave my apartment and being furious. AND I live in a huge city, where foreigners are abundant. I can't imagine what it's like for you, with few white people and in a Latino culture (although this is stereotypical, the men are much more aggressive than say...Chinese men). Oh, how I feel for you.

[–]BlazerMorte 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Guy, and yes, definitely feel that way. Condescending or delusional, either way.

[–]wondering_person[S] 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

you mean when girls compliment you?

[–]BlazerMorte 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Yeah, complimenting me, hitting on me, anything in between.

[–]faithface 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Yuuuup. When I was in Jr High (before I discovered a sense of fashion/makeup/health etc) I had popular guys that would pretend to ask me out as a joke. Notttt fun.

[–]shebillah 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

When I was in jr high, I had a really big crush on some guy named Eric. One day in class he whispered to me, "I really like your style". I was euphoric for the rest of the day until I realized my shirt was inside out. From that day on, every time he spoke to me, I spat out nasty insults.

[–]merlanai 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Yes, I was conditioned into reacting that way by years of insult compliments in school.

[–]Raddpixie 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Yes!

In fact just last night a waiter at my work asked me out sort of and I completely though he must be joking because only my SO and lesbians think I'm attractive (dont know what it is but apparently the ladies love me).

I was walking to my station and he said," so why won't you go on a date with me?" it caught me off guard so all I could reply was "what?" later when he saw me again he said "so was that a maybe?" I turned him down but the I honestly thought there was no way this guy was legitimately asking me on a date and the whole thing must be a joke somehow.

[–]cafe_bustello 0 points1 point ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

REALLY happy I'm not alone in this! I thought I was just weird.

[–]32_flavors 0 points1 point ago

I don't think it's all about self-esteem. When men are making catcalls (whether they mean to or not) it's about disrespect. They are drawing attention to your body and appearance, making you an object for their gaze. Sure, they may intend to compliment you, but regardless of intentions, street harassment (aka catcalls) is sexual harassment. They remind women of their inferior status and their worthlessness if they are not pretty.

That said, I often have very mixed feelings about them. Sometimes I feel good (because like most women I want to be seen as pretty) but most often I feel ashamed, embarrassed and put-down by them. Not because I don't see myself as beautiful but because I'm sick of being judged by my appearance alone.