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IAMA Former State Leader for Aryan Nations. AMA (self.IAmA)

submitted ago* by Aryan_Throwaway

Due to several requests in the KKK Request thread, I have decided to do an AMA. I joined the Aryan Nations in the early 90's. By 1993 I had worked my way up to running my state and being in charge of the nation wide youth program. Towards the end of the 90's, nearly half of the state leaders, including myself, had decided secede from the regular Aryan Nations group and start our own. This fracture hurt both groups and in my opinion, brought about the eventual downfall of the main group. Today the Aryan Nations is a ghost of its former self, and the splinter group I helped start has been absorbed into other white power groups. I am not driven by hatred like I used to be, and I got out not because I had some epiphany about other races, but because I realized that I disliked just as many white guys as I did black guys. At that point I realized it was pointless to be part of an organization that was full of so many people I didn't like just to dislike other people. AMA Somewhere I have a certificate with my name and rank from the AN headquarters. I intended to take a picture of it and submit it as proof with this AMA but cannot find it. The best I can do right now is write this account name on a piece of AN letterhead that I still have. EDIT: It is 3:30 in the morning and I am done for the night. I will answer anything new when I get up in the morning, and I should be on for an hour or two at least. Edit 2: I have been answering questions this morning but am unable to get to all of them. I will keep going for a little longer, but most will have to wait until Midnight Central Time tonight when I get back home. This AMA has been way busier than I thought it would be. Edit 3: 3 AM again and time to wrap up. I plan on finishing what I can tomorrow and closing this account down. I hope everyone has found this to be an interesting topic.

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[–]NitrogenHater 109 points110 points ago*

(1) Do you have a Eurocentric historical analysis of human society? That is, do you think that all major cultural and techonological achievements were made by whites? If so, how do you reconcile this with facts about ancient Chinese, Muslim, Mayan, Aztec, etc, feats of engineering, culture and science? I'm not challenging you, I'm just asking: If you believe that everything of major importance was done by whites, do you think it's some kind of conspiracy or error or something that gives us this understanding of feats accomplished by non-whites?

(2) Do you have any non-white friends? If so, how do you reconcile your opinions of them with your opinions regarding non-whites in general? If not, do you think that there are ANY worthwhile non-whites, and again, how does this sit with your opinions of non-whites? If you can think favourably of one non-white, does that challenge your ideas about "all non-whites"?

(3) How do you feel about medical understandings about the mental equity between different races? Again, how do you make this accord with your worldview?

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[–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 109 points110 points ago

  1. I do not think everything of importance was done by whites. Only a fool would believe that. I do believe that whites worked more at incorporating all of these advances into their civilization and continued to improve upon them while many of the cultures that originally came up with things have stalled.

  2. I have some non-white acquaintances. I live in a town that is nearly 100% white so I don't really socialize with non whites on a regular basis. I have some co workers that are non white that I get along with and would have no problem hanging out with them after work. When I actively disliked races as a group, I could still distinguish between the group and an individual.

  3. The last studies I was familiar with were from the book The Bell Curve that showed blacks having lower IQs than the general population. Most blacks I run into would lead me to believe that this is accurate. However, IQ is not the be all end all of a person.

[–]NitrogenHater 61 points62 points ago

Just on 3, do you think that socioeconomy constraints on blacks (which are objective, and not the subject of interpretation or opinion without a significant body of evidence disproving the accepted position that they are objective) could cause this disparity in test scores?

[–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 183 points184 points ago

It could be, but I grew up poor in the same neighborhoods as the black kids that did poorly in school and on standardized tests. Its not as if they were fresh off the boat from Africa. They were born and raised right here the same as me.

From what I have experienced, black people place less emphasis on education than white people do. Hopefully I am completely wrong about this.

[–]snickler 247 points248 points ago

black people place less emphasis on education than white people do. Hopefully I am completely wrong about this.

As a black male, I believe this also. I am fortunate that my parents COMPLETELY emphasized education more than anything. I grew up in the "ghetto" and was told that the only way I'd be able to make something out of my self is to pay attention in school and get that degree. Must say it worked.

I DO see a lot of blacks I grew up with on the other side of the spectrum.. Jail, murderers, druggies.. I think it's an environmental and parenting issue. Given that this CAN happen with whites, it's more likely to happen with blacks due to some having the mindset that "White people don't have to work as hard to get what they have so why should I?". I believe hard work for ANYONE puts you where you want to be. IMHO.

[–]kayoige 107 points108 points ago

As a black male I must agree with snickler. I cant say I wasn't fortunate to have the opportunities but I always prided myself in not conforming to stereotypes and wanting something better for myself. It gets annoying when everyone expects you to be a nothing and to never be successful.

[–]snickler 99 points100 points ago

Exactly.. It's also something else along the lines of hmmm.. "pride"? I've always been called "white" because I studied, had good grades, and wasn't out on the block with everyone else. Given that I was still respected, I never understood the mindset that obtaining an education and working hard to get somewhere in life makes someone "white". It almost sounds like... Scumbag (some) black people.. Ridicule you because you do something proactive to get out of the hood, complain that the white man is holding them down. <-- that is what I've observed. Even though I don't like to bring politics into the mix, but... black guy became President (something that was said to never happen).. all other arguments and excuses are null.. That's how I see it.

[–]kayoige 86 points87 points ago

Have an upvote brother. I was always called the whitest black kid out there because I didnt speak Ebonics and I am smart and not a little hood rat. I fear that I dislike the same kinds of black people OP dislikes in a sense. However I must admit that this isnt as much of a racial problem as it is cultural. I know tons of people of other ethnicity that have the same issues (white trash anyone?).

[–]cglove 34 points35 points ago

The problem is racism is on both sides.

A black guy making fun of you and calling you "white" because of your behavior is a racist, plain and simple - no different from a white supremacist. It sucks, but its just so easy to group by skin color that its probably always going to be around.

[–]DadOfWhiteJesus 8 points9 points ago

White trash indeed

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      [–]urbngrd 30 points31 points ago

      This is true. Im black (Well mixed) and most of my friends are nigerians who moved to the US for school. Some of the things the say about blacks here would get them honorary membership in the Klan. But in all honesty, I can't argue what they say, its really how they say it. I grew up in the inner city around all of the stereotypical things people think of when they hear "ghetto" and most of it is true. I even find myself being a bit prejudice to people of my own race. I genuinely feel as if I am worth more than most of them and would prefer to have nothing to do with the majority of blacks. Am I proud of this no, but to see people not give a fuck about themselves and them complain about it, while I busted my ass to get out, get my Master's and all of that, invokes such a visceral reaction in me.

      [–]kayoige 9 points10 points ago

      ಠ_ಠ First generation Nigerian-American... My parents would have to completely agree.

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          [–]MasterYoderp 12 points13 points ago

          I fully agree with the environmental/parenting issue. The culture from one generation is passed to the next and this cycle is very hard to break, in my opinion.

          [–]Braile 35 points36 points ago

          Poor white kid from coal mining town, I can agree with the hard work part. Many of the people in my town ended up slacking off because they never saw the value in working hard in school. I busted my butt every day to get out of that hell, and I have to say that had it not been for constantly striving to improve myself, I'd probably still be there. I am now of the belief that if you work hard, you will get what you deserve (brainwashed by the "American Dream").

          [–]notmycabbage 42 points43 points ago

          White girl from Hispanic neighborhood: I think it is less an issue of individual parents than an issue of culture. Different cultural groups have different cultural values. I don't think it is "white people don't have to work so I shouldn't," but rather "this system is built for white people so nonwhites can't succeed here."

          It's reinforced, too. As soon as tracking was introduced in middle school, I went from being in classes that were 80% nonwhite to "honors" classes that were almost exclusively white, and from there it was nearly impossible for students in lower levels to enter those classes- we were taught higher levels of math sooner, and started getting foreign language instruction in 7th grade, meaning that anyone who entered the "honors" courses would find themselves behind.

          Why should the students who weren't in "honors" classes work? The implication was clear: "honors" students were going to college, the rest weren't, as emphasized by references to college-bound students needing to take higher level courses, which lower level students were excluded from. There was nothing for the kids outside of "honors" classes to work for. At the age of 11 they were told whether or not they would make it to college.

          [–]sbuck333 14 points15 points ago

          As a white male from a heavily Hispanic neighborhood I had a very similar experience. I got into a gifted and talented program starting in 1st grade and went to a school that exclusively hosted that program. However, in 5th grade we moved on to a school in my neighborhood that hosted both GT and not-gt programs.

          It turned out to be a pretty unfair situation similar to what you described. We got Spanish classes, laptop computers, and I had algebra 1 starting in 6th grade while the neighborhood kids wouldn't get it until high school (9th grade). Even though the school got a ton of funding from the various titled education grants, it usually ended up going to us instead of helping out everyone.

          The worst part is that I know for a fact some families used money and/or influence to get their kids into the program. It was supposed to be based on a set of tests/exams (that's how I got in) but that's not really how it was for everybody. It sucked knowing that my neighborhood friends, who had just as much potential as we did, were getting the shaft and getting left behind. However, the culture just didn't really emphasize education or trying to change the status quo. Everyone basically just accepted it and let it be. Meanwhile, ever year, the standardized test scores drop (not like they mean anything) and more people are getting left behind.

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              [–]realsomalipirate 49 points50 points ago

              Just wanted to come in say the African immigrants in the US have the highest graduation rate.

              [–]NitrogenHater 128 points129 points ago*

              You know what?

              That response was completely reasonable, and at the risk of sounding like a dick, that's kind of surprising. I don't mean any disrespect, but I never thought I would listen to an argument from a white supremacist and say to myself, "He's not an idiot. His argument is reasoned and thought-out." I think you're wrong, but I don't think you're an idiot.

              At least, not for this post. :P

              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 106 points107 points ago

              Yeah, it happens. :-) I hope I am wrong about it, but as I mentioned, that's the way it is in my experience.

              By the way, I think you meant former white supremacist.

              [–]NitrogenHater 52 points53 points ago

              Apologies. Former indeed. That was an oversight; it just slipped my mind.

              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 138 points139 points ago

              Haha, no worries, I just like to italicize things whenever I get the chance and that was just begging for it.

              [–]juggleknob 37 points38 points ago

              there is a bad joke about basil and garlic staring me in the face but i just cant seem to get it out

              [–]elliotrosewater 9 points10 points ago

              Don't eat the crab dip!

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                    [–]shatteredjack 36 points37 points ago

                    I think it's perfectly reasonable to talk about culture. Think literal racism is stupid.

                    I think patriarchial authoritarian cultures like the more extreme Christian, jewish and muslim sects need to be extinguished. This is an entirely different thing than killing a bunch of people. I feel the same way about ghetto culture as I do about scientology. I have meet "black people" who "act white" and they get more shit from "ghetto" people than anyone. When a ghetto thug looks down on a tall, graceful beautiful black as fuck woman from african, who participates in modern society, while maintaining her cultural traditions, you can be sure that's not about 'race', it's culture. There are plenty of First Nations people who have decided that drunk and unproductive is what Native American Culture means.

                    Those are not examples of race- they are choices made by people.

                    [–]BlunderLikeARicochet 45 points46 points ago

                    Fun experiment: Ask an African immigrant how they feel about American black culture. It's not pretty.

                    [–]CromartiesBabysitter 20 points21 points ago

                    You're absolutely right. I live in NYC and a lot of the cab drivers are right from Africa. If you bring up American born Africans, they will just go on a tirade about how much they hate them.

                    [–]NoHelmet 17 points18 points ago

                    Fun fact; there aren't "American born Africans". You're either African, or American. Part of the racism we face every day is this Hyphen-American. Those of us born in the US are American. Period.

                    [–]molrobocop 23 points24 points ago

                    I don't know how this would turn out, but I'd suspect it's a little like when normal-people watch Jersey Shore.

                    [–]Hamlet7768 10 points11 points ago

                    Or people who actually live in Jersey. Like my Dad's side of the family, some of whom are Italian (in-laws through marriage).

                    We don't talk about that show.

                    [–]idislikecats 13 points14 points ago

                    A black, Muslim South African once told me this: "I think that all those n*****s in the US are pieces of shit. They are the reason that dumbass South Africans now dress like 50 Cent and want to be womanizers and sell drugs."

                    He was 100% black.

                    [–]Madrugadao 9 points10 points ago

                    I would fancy my chances in any American Ghetto over anywhere in South Africa TBH. He should be more concerned about rapes and murders and less concerned with people wearing baggy jeans.

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                            [–]akharon 24 points25 points ago

                            black people place less emphasis on education than white people do

                            Would you view this as a matter of demographic culture rather than something embedded into their DNA? It would be hard to say that Neil Degrasse Tyson (for whom reddit seems to have a big boner) is both 50% black and a huge proponent of education, the sciences, etc.

                            I'd agree in saying that education isn't stressed in the poorest neighborhoods, but I think that's true in white communities as well. It just happens that through a variety of actions and circumstances the blacks haven't risen to economic parity with whites, though this is true of other demarcations of groups in other nations.

                            [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 107 points108 points ago

                            I would have to say that it seems to me to be more of a cultural thing. However, it is easy to attribute to race when you are younger and less wise to the ways of the world. Obviously there are exceptions to every rule.

                            I am actually a big fan of Mr. Tyson and am actually reading one of his books right now. If more blacks were like him and less were like 50 Cent, racism would disappear within a generation.

                            [–]rasteri 54 points55 points ago

                            So you're saying racism is mostly a reaction to black people's attitude rather than their skin color?

                            [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 53 points54 points ago

                            These days? Yes. I think that is actually a pretty fair assessment. Go back to the beginning though and it was all about skin color. This has changed slowly over the years and has become much more about the culture of modern blacks, especially in America.

                            [–]KIRW7 4 points5 points ago

                            Go back to the beginning though and it was all about skin color.

                            Not at all. If that were the case white people like the Irish, Italians, and Polish, etc wouldn't have dealt with racist sentiments from white society. In American history, having any black ancestry no matter how far back instantly made you inferior in society's eyes. Everything from skin color, language, customs, place of birth or any factor has been used to justify racism of "others."

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                                [–]orblivion 79 points80 points ago

                                That said, 50 Cent is a lot smarter than he looks, particularly in business.

                                [–][deleted] 30 points31 points ago

                                When you're a performer, people tend to see your presentation first and your other characteristics second.

                                [–]lol43 22 points23 points ago

                                That said, 50 Cent tries to act a lot smarter than he looks, particularly in business.

                                FTFY. Seriously, everybody who gets some kind of success suddenly thinks they're a business man.

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                                  [–]sempire 17 points18 points ago

                                  You have to remember that 50 Cent was a former gangster just as you were a former white supremacist. If you have seen recently he has done more than most rich musicians/actors in terms of donating to important causes and helping to feed and educate the poor.

                                  Sometimes people because something due to circumstance. I think 50 is doing a lot for people even though he came from a troubled past.

                                  [–]akharon 20 points21 points ago

                                  Indeed. However, for every one 50 cent, there's 6 (8?) assholes on Jersey Shore that pimp out the stupid = cool garbage.

                                  [–]jfk1000 72 points73 points ago

                                  If I had a dollar for every 50 cent, I'd pretty much double my money.

                                  [–]rophel 30 points31 points ago

                                  Craig Ferguson explains what's actually wrong:

                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLqeNhHs4n8

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                                        [–]jdog2050 14 points15 points ago

                                        The problem with this statement is the idea that they were raised "the same as you". Rewind that and think about it.

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                                            [–][deleted] 92 points93 points ago

                                            "The Bell Curve", by Murray and Herrnstein? Really?

                                            " Nearly all the research that Murray and Herrnstein relied on for their central claims about race and IQ was funded by the Pioneer Fund, described by the London Sunday Telegraph (3/12/89) as a "neo-Nazi organization closely integrated with the far right in American politics." The fund's mission is to promote eugenics, a philosophy that maintains that "genetically unfit" individuals or races are a threat to society.

                                            The Pioneer Fund was set up in 1937 by Wickliffe Draper, a millionaire who advocated sending blacks back to Africa. The foundation's charter set forth the group's missions as "racial betterment" and aid for people "deemed to be descended primarily from white persons who settled in the original 13 states prior to the adoption of the Constitution of the United States." (In 1985, after Pioneer Fund grant recipients began receiving political heat, the charter was slightly amended to play down the race angle--GQ, 11/94.)

                                            The fund's first president, Harry Laughlin, was an influential advocate of sterilization for those he considered genetically unfit. In successfully advocating laws that would restrict immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe, Laughlin testified before Congress that 83 percent of Jewish immigrants were innately feeble-minded (Rolling Stone, 10/20/94). Another founder, Frederick Osborn, described Nazi Germany's sterilization law as "a most exciting experiment" (Discovery Journal, 7/9/94). "

                                            [–]PepsiColaRapist 50 points51 points ago

                                            Wait... what? You're telling me racist people read books that confirm their beliefs. Wow. There should be a name for that. Maybe we can call it "confirmation bias".

                                            [–]lasyke3 17 points18 points ago

                                            He's just making an argument to discredit a source, not expressing disbelief.

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                                              [–]sansdeity 20 points21 points ago

                                              Cracks me up when people cite the Bell Curve as some sort of scientific proof of intellectual difference.

                                              That book has been so thoroughly debunked, I don't think it's being printed anymore.

                                              [–]OlivieroVidal 9 points10 points ago

                                              People don't actually care about learning. They want to read books that re-affirm what they already believe.

                                              [–]vulgator 5 points6 points ago

                                              Well The Pioneer Fund's anti-semitic agenda didn't stop Murray and Herrnstein (who was Jewish himself) from finding that Ashkenazi Jews have by far the highest mean IQ among races. IQ differences among races in the book are said to be caused by a mixture of genetics and environment.

                                              I used to be a virulent opponent of The Bell Curve, but after reading it there isn't much to argue with. The main premise is that intelligence is heritable and increases in technology are making the world a more complex place. Intelligent people deal better with complexity and will be OK, but less intelligent people will need more help (i.e. bigger welfare state). I don't like the conclusions (who would?), but scientists shouldn't only study pleasant and uncontroversial subjects.

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                                                  [–]borum 124 points125 points ago

                                                  How do you guys feel about asians?

                                                  [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 166 points167 points ago

                                                  When I was in, the official view was that they are (obviously) non-white, but they were the most acceptable minority. There were actually a few Japanese Aryan Nation cells active in Japan in the mid 90's. It was kind of a "We will take your money and let you spread our message, but we really don't want to hang out with you" type of thing. Kind of hypocritical I think, but that's the way it was. I have personally never had a problem against Asians.

                                                  [–]omgdonerkebab 443 points444 points ago*

                                                  As an Asian-American, I'm offended that you considered us the most acceptable minority. That you didn't hate us enough means we aren't doing something right.

                                                  Edit: Scumbag redditors - Defend Black people against all forms of racism; make Asian jokes. What's funny is that this model minority bullshit stems from the same place that Aryan_Throwaway's complacence with Asians comes from.

                                                  [–]lurkerturneduser 42 points43 points ago

                                                  Ainu people of northern Japan:

                                                  Many have wavy hair, but some straight black hair. Very few of them have wavy brownish hair. Their skins are generally reported to be light brown. But this is due to the fact that they labor on the sea and in briny winds all day. Old people who have long desisted from their outdoor work are often found to be as white as western men. The Ainu have broad faces, beetling eyebrows, and large sunken eyes, which are generally horizontal and of the so-called European type. Eyes of the Mongolian type are hardly found among them.

                                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people

                                                  [–][deleted] 43 points44 points ago

                                                  I just Googled and found this Ainu man. Wow TIL.

                                                  http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/7015/img_4146a.jpg

                                                  [–]lurkerturneduser 42 points43 points ago

                                                  Ainu woman, Mina Sakai: http://sal.up.seesaa.net/image/BCF2B0E6A4B5A4F3.jpg

                                                  [–]DannyFathom 30 points31 points ago

                                                  asian sean connery

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                                                      [–]fuzzycuffs 250 points251 points ago

                                                      You should pee pee in his Coke. That'll get him to hate you more.

                                                      [–]Rasalom 87 points88 points ago

                                                      Isn't that just Diet Coke?

                                                      [–]Polderty 21 points22 points ago

                                                      I'm an American and I am smart I took out the pee-pee part.

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                                                        [–]TChuff 19 points20 points ago

                                                        Fine, you are now the least accepted minority.

                                                        [–]pieguyfly 30 points31 points ago

                                                        Why not Zoidberg?

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                                                            [–]freakzilla149 2 points3 points ago

                                                            Do you have a view on Indians? From India, not the american variety.

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                                                              [–]mxlytn 66 points67 points ago

                                                              what would you/how would you feel do if your son truly loved and was happily married to a black woman?

                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 128 points129 points ago

                                                              Honestly, I wouldn't be thrilled about it, but you can't choose who somebody loves.

                                                              [–]mxlytn 49 points50 points ago

                                                              would you try to stop the marriage?

                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 147 points148 points ago

                                                              No.

                                                              [–]mxlytn 35 points36 points ago

                                                              would you invite them over for christmas dinner?

                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 135 points136 points ago

                                                              I don't invite anyone over for christmas dinner. So, I guess the answer would be no.

                                                              [–]jaggy_roundy 81 points82 points ago

                                                              Would you like to come to my Christmas dinner?

                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 45 points46 points ago

                                                              Will there by turkey and pie?

                                                              [–]fallafelrofl 230 points231 points ago

                                                              Dark or white meat?

                                                              [–]MinisterOfTheDog 186 points187 points ago

                                                              Asian is the most acceptable.

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                                                                  [–]molrobocop 8 points9 points ago

                                                                  What if I brought beer?

                                                                  [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 23 points24 points ago

                                                                  Maybe you could show up, but I am still not inviting anyone.

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                                                                        [–]cfuse 20 points21 points ago

                                                                        Well, as an extension of that question and your answer: what about if he decided to marry another man?

                                                                        [–]Panthertron 24 points25 points ago

                                                                        a black man!

                                                                        [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 22 points23 points ago

                                                                        See above.

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                                                                              [–]lalit008 31 points32 points ago

                                                                              Can you explain what the title "State Leader" means, and the ranking system for that matter?

                                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 34 points35 points ago

                                                                              Sure. The Aryan Nations were set up like a paramilitary organization. Ranks were utilized like the Army. Private Corporal Sergeant etc. In addition to rank, you also had titles based upon your responsibilities to the organization. The lowest of these would be a city leader. This would be someone in charge of recruiting and organizing in a city. Then you had state zones, north, south, and mid if your state was large enough. The leaders for state zones would have all of the city leaders in thier zone under them. Next came state leaders. Everyone in the state would answer to the state leader and that state leader would represent the state at annual meetings. Above that you would have nationwide leaders such as the nationwide prison leader, youth leader, and womens leader. I started out as a city leader and then jumped into state leadership due to my organizational skills. This earned me the rank of Captain. When I took over the nationwide youth leadership I was bumped to Major.

                                                                              [–]lalit008 28 points29 points ago

                                                                              Thanks for the answer, second question, I live in an area where the klan used to be a major presence about 40 or 50 years ago.

                                                                              Before I ask this question, I assume that you either had contact with the klan, or know more about them than most people.

                                                                              My question is, if I, as a Mexican-American, ever wandered into a Klan, or something with the Aryan Nation, meeting/ gathering area/ compound/ etc. What would be my best course if action, and what would'Ve happend to me back then, and now.

                                                                              Be advised that I'm assuming a lot of things, and to be honest I'm pretty ignorant on the subject of white supremacy groups. That last question was more so based on movies so take it how you will.

                                                                              I apologize in advance if some of my assumptions offend, not my intention.

                                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 45 points46 points ago

                                                                              In my experience, if you wandered into a Klan rally you would be lucky to get away with just a serious ass whipping depending on how many people were there and how drunk they were. While the Klan aren't as violent as skinheads, they feel they have a reputation to uphold. You would be unable to talk yourself out of something like that unharmed.

                                                                              Aryan Nations when I was in, you might be able to convince them you were Spanish or Brazilian and looking to join. AN had large bases in Spain, Portugal, and throughout South America. They view Spanish as part of the "Aryan" race. If you let on that you were Mexican, its hard telling. Maybe an ass beating, maybe just being confrontational until you left. We spent a big part of the 90's trying to clean up our image, so your chances would have been better with us than nearly any other white power group at the time.

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                                                                                [–]Vaeltaja 99 points100 points ago

                                                                                Would you say you're just a sort of misanthrope and not really a racist?

                                                                                [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 135 points136 points ago

                                                                                I would say that is a pretty fair assessment.

                                                                                [–]Helveticant 24 points25 points ago

                                                                                Well than we are more like minded than I thought we would be...

                                                                                [–]zeneurosis 210 points211 points ago

                                                                                I tried joining the Misanthrope Nation but the guy told me to fuck off.

                                                                                [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 116 points117 points ago

                                                                                Ugh, I hate that guy.

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                                                                                    [–]mebd 25 points26 points ago*

                                                                                    Does anyone actually view themselves as racist? I've watched my grandparents toss around racial epitaphs epithets and spout very bigoted viewpoints, but oh no, they're not racist. I'm sure the people that lynched blacks had some excuse for why they weren't actually racists.

                                                                                    [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 38 points39 points ago

                                                                                    I can't speak for most other people, but I think its safe to say that if you bother to take the time to join a known racist organization, you identify as a racist.

                                                                                    [–]moving0target 42 points43 points ago

                                                                                    A racial epitaph?

                                                                                    "Here lies John. He was a good white guy."

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                                                                                        [–]fbaum 19 points20 points ago

                                                                                        What do you think of people who say they are "colorblind to race"?

                                                                                        [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 98 points99 points ago

                                                                                        I say they are liars. Maybe you don't have any preconceived notion about somebody based on their race, but you know that they are race A B or C. To attempt to tell someone otherwise is pure dickery.

                                                                                        [–]fbaum 27 points28 points ago

                                                                                        I say this as a resident of liberal, overly-PC Seattle, where people go out of their way to disavow racism and then ignore the obvious problems that haven't magically gone away. Thanks for doing this. I'm appreciating your answers!

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                                                                                            [–]TheRegno 17 points18 points ago

                                                                                            How old were you when you joined?

                                                                                            [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 39 points40 points ago

                                                                                            I was 19.

                                                                                            [–]mxlytn 18 points19 points ago

                                                                                            what is it about aryans that make them superior?

                                                                                            [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 114 points115 points ago

                                                                                            Nothing I suppose, once you get right down to it. Human nature makes you identify with your own.

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                                                                                              [–]AhabFXseas 18 points19 points ago

                                                                                              You mention that you made up your own mind regarding your racial attitudes (i.e. you weren't raised that way specifically). Can you point to any formative experiences/events that you credit with influencing your early thoughts on other races?

                                                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 41 points42 points ago

                                                                                              There is no one outstanding event that shaped my thoughts concerning other races. Growing up around a lot of blacks and constantly fighting with them about everything is probably the biggest overall influence. We fought them and called them niggers, they fought us and called us crackers. It was just the way it was. To this day I giggle when someone calls me a cracker.

                                                                                              [–]alpredator 34 points35 points ago

                                                                                              What made you dislike black guys to the point where you decided to join the Aryan Nations? Have you ever done anything mean to someone due to their race? If so, what was it?

                                                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 67 points68 points ago

                                                                                              I grew up in a fairly poor area with a lot of blacks. It seems that most of my childhood was involved with me and my friends fighting the black kids in the neighborhood. Prior to achieving rank in the AN I used to fight quite a bit, but its not like I ever went out and lynched anyone.

                                                                                              [–]never_knows_best 8 points9 points ago

                                                                                              When you said you fought, were you defending yourself? Or picking on kids smaller/in few numbers than you? Or was it just typical pseudo-gang fighting where both parties are in the wrong.

                                                                                              [–]OlivieroVidal 8 points9 points ago

                                                                                              I am a Mexican-American and I grew up in a middle class neighborhood. My cousins, however, did not and they hate black people and Salvadorans because they are always getting in fights with said black people. I came to the conclusion that when you fight someone, you want to make them less than you to justify what you do.

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                                                                                                [–]gajenn 32 points33 points ago

                                                                                                Even though you say you didn't leave because of any 'epiphany about other races,' I'm sure you've had time to think about that since then. What are some misconceptions you had about other races and how has your mentality changed? (if it has)

                                                                                                [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 70 points71 points ago

                                                                                                I don't know if I can say I had any misconceptions about other races. I can say that these days I don't automatically assume things about most people upon seeing them for the first time. Am I 100% accepting of everyone and have zero racist thoughts and leanings now? Hell no. I still dislike most people that I meet, I just don't dismiss people out of hand because of the color anymore.

                                                                                                [–]fuzzycuffs 94 points95 points ago

                                                                                                So you're a curmudgeon?

                                                                                                If Andy Rooney can do it and be a cute old man, so can you. Reach for those stars.

                                                                                                [–]inkonpaperhero 13 points14 points ago

                                                                                                Since your attitude has broadened to include all walks of life, do you find that you apply racist judgments to white people as well? Like, as a racist, it seems to me that you would have to see Caucasians as the only people capable of individuality, and everyone else as a stereotype, nothing more. Do you now see everyone as a stereotype?

                                                                                                [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 143 points144 points ago

                                                                                                How about instead of racist, we say I more prejudicial? If I see someone of ANY race walking towards me in big baggy pants, a super long white tshirt, and a flat brimmed baseball cap cocked to one side I am NOT going to think that they are the local rocket scientist. Likewise, if I see somebody of ANY race walking towards me in pleated khakis and a sweater vest, I am not going to think that they are mildly retarded and trying to take advantage of me.

                                                                                                [–]maplesucker34 63 points64 points ago

                                                                                                holy shit I know so many people like the one you described, all of whom are white.

                                                                                                [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 135 points136 points ago

                                                                                                Exactly why I figured it wasn't worth the effort to be racist.

                                                                                                [–]jdog2050 11 points12 points ago

                                                                                                So in light of that, what would you think of Corporate influence on urban culture?

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                                                                                                    [–]DJ_BuddySystem 36 points37 points ago

                                                                                                    in big baggy pants, a super long white tshirt, and a flat brimmed baseball cap cocked to one side

                                                                                                    I hate these people because they're usual teenage boys. I fucking hate teenage boys. I guess I'm agist.

                                                                                                    [–]art0rz 28 points29 points ago

                                                                                                    I love teenage boys

                                                                                                    [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 40 points41 points ago

                                                                                                    Chris Hanson would like to have a word with you.

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                                                                                                        [–]TChuff 20 points21 points ago

                                                                                                        Wiggers. Do you call them wiggers too?

                                                                                                        [–]passion4pizza 35 points36 points ago

                                                                                                        Chavs

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                                                                                                              [–]PokE_Pro 16 points17 points ago

                                                                                                              What race other than white is the least hated, or are they are equally hated amongst aryan gangs?

                                                                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 33 points34 points ago

                                                                                                              Depends on the area. I have never really had a big issue with asians or hispanics.

                                                                                                              [–]kablarg 14 points15 points ago

                                                                                                              Have you ever gone traveling outside of the US? and what was your impression?

                                                                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 28 points29 points ago

                                                                                                              No, I have not, although I would love to. I would love to travel to Europe. I also wouldn't mind checking out Japan.

                                                                                                              [–]Eddie_The_Brewer 271 points272 points ago

                                                                                                              Start with the Sudetenland, then Poland, Czechoslovakia, France, Belgium, Holland - but stay the fuck out of Russia, especially in winter.

                                                                                                              [–]danlowlite 23 points24 points ago

                                                                                                              I see what you did there. And was amused.

                                                                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                                              Thank you for making me giggle.

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                                                                                                                  [–]YouHaveBadGrammar 27 points28 points ago

                                                                                                                  What do you think of Obama?

                                                                                                                  [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 77 points78 points ago

                                                                                                                  I don't care for him. I do not like his politics and I do not like his attitude. I also do not care for the fact that he tries to play it off like he is 100% black, unless its convenient to mention he is half white.

                                                                                                                  [–]supradeep 266 points267 points ago

                                                                                                                  He has all of our strengths, and none of our weaknesses. He is the daywalker.

                                                                                                                  [–]bobman15 11 points12 points ago

                                                                                                                  He's black not ginger.

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                                                                                                                    [–]Panthertron 79 points80 points ago

                                                                                                                    one spoonful of chocolate changes the whole glass of milk, baby.

                                                                                                                    [–]razoRamone31 79 points80 points ago

                                                                                                                    Very inaccurate. He avoids referring to himself as a black president.

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                                                                                                                      [–]possiblyFibbing 42 points43 points ago

                                                                                                                      How did you get started in the brotherhood? Were you brought into it?

                                                                                                                      [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 82 points83 points ago

                                                                                                                      There is a difference between the Aryan Brotherhood, which is a prison gang, and the Aryan Nations which is a regular white power group open to the general public. I had been getting more and more racist and wanted to join an actual organization to meet other people that shared my views. The Klan didn't appeal to me so I decided to write to Aryan Nations. $35 later, I was a member.

                                                                                                                      [–]art0rz 43 points44 points ago

                                                                                                                      Did you receive a complimentary hat upon registration?

                                                                                                                      [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 22 points23 points ago

                                                                                                                      No, but you did get a nifty wallet card.

                                                                                                                      [–]possiblyFibbing 22 points23 points ago

                                                                                                                      If you don't mind, could I delve deeper? Why is it you think, that you became so racist? Nature or nurture?

                                                                                                                      [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 39 points40 points ago

                                                                                                                      I pretty much answered that in a question somewhere below. I would say it's environment.

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                                                                                                                          [–]201smellsfunny 13 points14 points ago

                                                                                                                          You say you're not driven by hatred anymore, but that the reason you got out wasn't that you had an epiphany that racism was wrong... does that mean you still dislike blacks/minorities, but just aren't as driven to do anything about it? Or something else?

                                                                                                                          [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 25 points26 points ago

                                                                                                                          For the most part, yes, I still dislike them. That being said, I dislike most whites I come in contact with as well. However, I am not going to go out of my way to point out to them or anyone else how I feel about it.

                                                                                                                          [–]free_dead_puppy 55 points56 points ago

                                                                                                                          You remind me a lot of Clint Eastwood in Gran Turino.

                                                                                                                          [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 57 points58 points ago

                                                                                                                          This makes me giggle.

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                                                                                                                              [–]acertainpointofview 13 points14 points ago

                                                                                                                              When you made your decision to leave, and had to inform the AN, how did they take it? Was violence or the threat of violence ever used to coerce you into staying?

                                                                                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 24 points25 points ago

                                                                                                                              When I decided to leave, I was already part of a group that had seceded. So really, the main AN group wasn't even aware I don't believe. When my group left the AN main group originally, yes, there were some subtle threats to our lives but nothing ever came of them. Hopefully I haven't jinxed myself now. ;)

                                                                                                                              [–]BitRex 55 points56 points ago

                                                                                                                              Why did your group secede? Force of habit?

                                                                                                                              [–]f18 23 points24 points ago*

                                                                                                                              Where would you say your beliefs fall (fell) in relation to this guy: http://www.reddit.com/user/WhitePrideWorldWide

                                                                                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 114 points115 points ago

                                                                                                                              People like him are one of the reasons I don't associate with anyone in the movement anymore.

                                                                                                                              [–]Lyrad1002 22 points23 points ago

                                                                                                                              What is the economic breakdown of a white supremacist group? Upperclass/middleclass/poor/etc?

                                                                                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 41 points42 points ago

                                                                                                                              You get a little of everything, but it tends to mostly be middle class. It is really a lot like the punk rock demographic.

                                                                                                                              [–]FuckOffMightBe2Kind 31 points32 points ago

                                                                                                                              You said that you quit because you didn't like the people in the organization, not because of changed feeling towards minorities. How do you feel about minorities now?

                                                                                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 141 points142 points ago

                                                                                                                              My views have softened, but I am still not going to donate to the United Negro College Fund.

                                                                                                                              [–]Trook2007 218 points219 points ago

                                                                                                                              Don't worry I'm black and I won't donate to them either.

                                                                                                                              [–]noflag 24 points25 points ago

                                                                                                                              Why?

                                                                                                                              [–]Trook2007 159 points160 points ago

                                                                                                                              Because they're a supremacist organization. Similar to the reason I don't like the NAACP or any of those other rights places because they stomp on the rights of others in the process at times.

                                                                                                                              [–]KIRW7 25 points26 points ago*

                                                                                                                              I think you're reaching calling them a supremacist organization. They're not remotely promoting any ideology that blacks are racially superior. Their official slogan is "A mind is a terrible thing to waste." A less used slogan is "not asking for a handout—just a hand." Very supremacist of them.

                                                                                                                              [–]outwrangle 28 points29 points ago

                                                                                                                              What are some rights that the NAACP has stomped on?

                                                                                                                              [–]jmacineurope 66 points67 points ago

                                                                                                                              The right of white people to live with unchallenged privilege?

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                                                                                                                                [–]noflag 53 points54 points ago

                                                                                                                                I figured they just gave scholarships to black students. Am I missing something?

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                                                                                                                                      [–]sniffles_snort 18 points19 points ago

                                                                                                                                      But I thought a major issue you cited about blacks was not enough emphasis on education. Why not help support those that do pursue higher education?

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                                                                                                                                        [–]Notmyrealname 19 points20 points ago

                                                                                                                                        How would you feel if your most respected leader turned out to be a blind black guy?

                                                                                                                                        [–]bgsilver 62 points63 points ago

                                                                                                                                        How do you feel about Jewish people?

                                                                                                                                        [–]Goders 7 points8 points ago

                                                                                                                                        This AMA is probably one of the most interesting ones I've read in a while. Thank you for doing it! Now, my question is, if you had a son or daughter who wanted to join any type of white pride/power group, would you try to stop them or be supportive?

                                                                                                                                        [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 6 points7 points ago

                                                                                                                                        I would try to stop them simply for the fact that I would try to stop them from joining any type of a gang.

                                                                                                                                        [–]trish00l 46 points47 points ago

                                                                                                                                        Would the Aryan nation support the country of Iran if a war broke out with the West considering that Iran considers itself the purest Aryan nation (the word Iran comes from Land of the Aryan)?

                                                                                                                                        [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 101 points102 points ago

                                                                                                                                        No they would not. Personally I think Aryan was a poor choice of words for Hitler and the white power movement to get behind. It allows easy questions like this.

                                                                                                                                        [–]farangiyeparsi 80 points81 points ago

                                                                                                                                        Haha, yeah as an Iranian it can get very awkward explaining the difference between modern "Aryan" and ancient Indo-Iranian "Aryan."

                                                                                                                                        Goddamn Hitler had to go and steal our ethnonym.

                                                                                                                                        [–]freakzilla149 22 points23 points ago

                                                                                                                                        And the swastika, seriously what the hell was wrong with Hitler? Killing millions of Jews is one thing but to call yourself Iranian and steal a religious (or is it secular?) symbol from the Hindus, Buddhists and Jains.

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                                                                                                                                          [–]TRG34 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                                                          David duke supports Iran.

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                                                                                                                                            [–]MuellerGreen 9 points10 points ago

                                                                                                                                            Do you feel any distaste towards your former group members? Do you still associate with any of them?

                                                                                                                                            [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 21 points22 points ago

                                                                                                                                            No, I don't feel anything to any of them. I haven't spoken with anyone from the movement in the last 10 years or so.

                                                                                                                                            [–]inkonpaperhero 27 points28 points ago

                                                                                                                                            because I realized that I disliked just as many white guys as I did black guys.

                                                                                                                                            This is, in my opinion, the key to the elimination of a racist attitude. I'm from a pretty whitewashed part of the Midwest, and as a result, a good deal of the people I know that are over 40 can say some pretty brutally racist things without thinking twice about it. (That is to say, fundamentally good/nice people who legitimately buy into some racist ideas because of their upbringing. The proximity to Detroit also probably has a lot to do with it.) These remarks were just part of growing up white when I was a kid, but as I got older I started to have more and more of an obvious problem with it around family members.

                                                                                                                                            My Uncle: "You know, a black man will do anything to get something over on a white man."

                                                                                                                                            Me: Silence.

                                                                                                                                            Uncle: "But, I guess a white man would do anything to get something over on a black man, too."

                                                                                                                                            BAM! It's that simple. Congratulations, Uncle. You get it.

                                                                                                                                            [–]smokingbuds420 16 points17 points ago

                                                                                                                                            Have you even taken part in any hate crimes?? If so, what did you do?

                                                                                                                                            [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 107 points108 points ago

                                                                                                                                            I have been involved in some fights. I think the term hate crime is overused and really means nothing. If I am going to take the time to beat your fucking ass, of course its because I hate you. I am not going to do it because I like you.

                                                                                                                                            [–]infinite 94 points95 points ago

                                                                                                                                            Hate crime doesn't refer to crimes in which hating the other person is involved. Instead it involves crimes against a person merely because they belong to a certain group. If you attack someone merely because of the color of their skin, you are liable to harm other people with that same skin color, so you pose more of a threat compared to if you harmed someone based on an individual basis.

                                                                                                                                            [–]whollo918 22 points23 points ago

                                                                                                                                            You're missing the point of "hate crime" entirely. It's a crime committed on prejudicial views, not because you "hate" someone.

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                                                                                                                                              [–]upsmoke 12 points13 points ago

                                                                                                                                              As a child, we're you raised in a hate-driven atmosphere or were you "the different one" and joined the Nation afterwards? And now that you're out, do you ever notice the kids of your fellow AN friends growing up into the same world you left? Thanks.

                                                                                                                                              [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 63 points64 points ago

                                                                                                                                              I was raised in what I would call a pretty normal Midwestern family. While my parents were not actively anti racist, they weren't actively racist either. I made up my own mind about other races based on my experience with them.

                                                                                                                                              It has been at least 10 years since I have had any contact with any of the people I knew from AN. It is possible that some of them are still as actively involved as they were. If so, that is their business. If they have kids, they are most likely being raised to follow in their footsteps which I believe will eventually backfire on them. Once their kids get old enough they will probably denounce their racist upbringing and become hippies.

                                                                                                                                              [–]fuckingsuperman 28 points29 points ago

                                                                                                                                              The ending was great.

                                                                                                                                              [–]farangiyeparsi 9 points10 points ago

                                                                                                                                              Once their kids get old enough they will probably denounce their racist upbringing and become hippies.

                                                                                                                                              Best ironic punishment.

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                                                                                                                                                [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 37 points38 points ago

                                                                                                                                                No, although Chappelle is one funny motherfucker.

                                                                                                                                                Which reminds me. Regardless of my former feelings on race, I was always able to recognize a talented performer. You will find that most of the people involved in a group like Aryan Nations or the Klan will not even TRY to view any type of minority based upon their individual talents. I never had that problem.

                                                                                                                                                [–]music4mic 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                                                                Chappalle probably understands race better than 99% of the people in this country. It's more than just talent, he's genius.

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                                                                                                                                                  [–]Richas 64 points65 points ago

                                                                                                                                                  I'm an Hispanic man with an African American girlfriend, can we join the Aryan Nation? Okay, I'm just kidding, I'm already in the Lego club, I'm set for life :)

                                                                                                                                                  My real question is has the Aryan Nation as a whole ever acknowledged that being born Aryan is an accident of birth? It's not like when you're in the womb you get a drop down menu full of physical characteristics to choose from. No one can ever choose their race, so why does the Aryan Nation feel proud over some thing they had absolutely no hand in achieving? Being white is not an accomplishment, pride in my opinion should be reserved for something that was earned and not given by simple genetics.

                                                                                                                                                  Does the Aryan Nation ever just say "We didn't choose or race, but we're very happy to be of a light completion"? Is there any science involved or does the Aryan Nation just base it's "facts" from Hitler's completely made-up propaganda?

                                                                                                                                                  I'm not trying to be condescending, I just don't understand how a group of people can hate other races while seeming to have no outstanding attributes themselves (not saying white people suck, I mean we're all equal because we're all the same species. It would be like saying that all Ford Crown Victoria's suck and should be destroyed, but Lincoln's are the superior car race ((Ford owns both companies)).

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                                                                                                                                                  Everything in your life is an accident of something, including all your so-called "earned" accomplishments. Your personality, integrity, motivation - all are downstream accidents of your birth and upbringing. The idea of the self and free will are illusions that fall apart under the scrutiny of reason.

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                                                                                                                                                    [–]jesus_died_huh 16 points17 points ago

                                                                                                                                                    American History X: Good movie? Or Great movie?

                                                                                                                                                    [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 28 points29 points ago

                                                                                                                                                    Ok movie, pretty unrealistic as far as how people were portrayed in my opinion though.

                                                                                                                                                    [–]imdrinkingteaatwork 17 points18 points ago

                                                                                                                                                    What was realistic and what was unrealistic?

                                                                                                                                                    [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 9 points10 points ago

                                                                                                                                                    I feel it was pretty unrealistic the way it portrayed the main racist group that ed norton was part of. Even when you join an actual group like the klan or AN you don't run into that many hard line racists. I felt that the group in the movie was portrayed as evil and unsympathetic as possible. I also felt that Ed nortons character changed his stance far too easily. Don't get me wrong, it was an entertaining movie, but that's all it was.

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                                                                                                                                                        [–]f18 5 points6 points ago*

                                                                                                                                                        How does the aryan nations differ from other white supremacist groups? Do you feel as though you are superior purely because of skin color?

                                                                                                                                                        [–]hanahou 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                                                                        So you would be cool with Aryan Japanese?

                                                                                                                                                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oD6mVutG0U&feature=related

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                                                                                                                                                        The fuck was that?

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                                                                                                                                                          [–]shatteredjack 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                                                                                          My brother actually said basically the same thing - "I used to think most blacks and mexicans were dirtbags. Now I think most people are dirtbags. Equal Opportunity, man"

                                                                                                                                                          [–]MaoTsetung 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                                                                                          Did your group ever feel threatened by the rapidly growing population of minorities, or muli-culturism in general? I mean, did ya'll ever look around and say to yourselves "holy shit, we're becoming the minority!"

                                                                                                                                                          [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                                                                          Constantly. It was one of the main forces that drove new people to join us.

                                                                                                                                                          [–]Baeschteli 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                                                                                          Thanks for the AMA. Appreciate the honesty and the courage (I assume any former or current member of AN might be able to identify you, given that you led a state and formed your own group at one point).

                                                                                                                                                          My questions:

                                                                                                                                                          • Do you regret for once being an influential leader of AN? And more, is there anything you regret in particular, i.e. something you wish you had not done?

                                                                                                                                                          • Did the membership help you to get better deals in your life, ie. jobs, useful network, other benefits...? If yes, do you miss it or have you lost any of these perks after leaving AN?

                                                                                                                                                          • What was the content of a former AN meeting and what exactly have you "achieved" as a state leader?

                                                                                                                                                          [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                                                                          To be honest, my biggest regret about being in a group like the Aryan Nations is that I can't really use my experiences with them on my resume. Looking back, I don't regret anything that I did in my capacity as state leader. Its not as if I went door to door killing little black children or anything like that. Membership in AN didn't really give me any perks simply because it was never really large enough to do so. Mainly the content of meetings was how to further the advancement of our race. Mostly it had to deal with organizing for one political candidate or another. Of course, many of these candidates had no idea that we were AN members. They just thought we were helpful volunteers. My biggest achievement as state leader was doubling my states membership.

                                                                                                                                                          [–]Calumdee 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                                                                          Can you eat a Chinese buffet?

                                                                                                                                                          [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 10 points11 points ago

                                                                                                                                                          Not the whole thing.

                                                                                                                                                          [–]ThereTheyGo 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                                                                          I will probably regret posting this, but I have an idea on how to use Aryan Nation hate to benefit poor communities.

                                                                                                                                                          Get them to help fund a Planned Parenthood or other reproductive health service that will operate in the community. The community gets a stabilizing effect of having better control over reproduction, and hateful people get to contribute to something that's ending potential minority lives.

                                                                                                                                                          Everyone wins.

                                                                                                                                                          Do you think the Aryan Nation would go for it?

                                                                                                                                                          [–]learnebonics 7 points8 points ago

                                                                                                                                                          What do you think about white guilt, and white peoples' attempts to over-compensate for racism? For example, how it's not acceptable to say "black people do x", but it is acceptable to say "white people do x". Does this ever make you hate white people even more?

                                                                                                                                                          [–]Aryan_Throwaway[S] 6 points7 points ago

                                                                                                                                                          I find this to be extremely annoying.

                                                                                                                                                          [–]annYongASAURUS 19 points20 points ago

                                                                                                                                                          What's your favourite type of sandwich?

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