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[–]RugerRedhawk 170 points171 points ago

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FUCK. I've been using Snus lately, on most week days, just one snus in the morning. My one spot where I used to keep the pouch is sore, and feels like it's receded. I switched to the other side. I thought it was just in my head, but FUCK THIS SHIT. I'm quitting.

[–]Wondering_Wandering 150 points151 points ago

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Smoke Weed Instead!

This has been a reddit public service announcement from your friends at /r/trees!

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[–]XBleed 13 points14 points ago

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I have one of those mild headaches, working out for an hour completely and utterly refreshes me.

Ouch. It takes you an hour? With weed it takes maybe thirty seconds.

[–]dicks1jo 3 points4 points ago

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Masturbation fixes the headache in minutes without needing to pay your hookup.

[–]axxleaskscience mod 4 points5 points ago

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12 seconds.

[–]crystalcastles 9 points10 points ago

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Eveything in moderation...and the keyword isn't "moderation"...it's "everything".

[–]wheresandrew 8 points9 points ago

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I bought a pack of Snus then immediately threw out a pack of Snus.

[–]badoo123 9 points10 points ago

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I tried Snus and it used to send me straight for a shit

[–]RugerRedhawk 2 points3 points ago

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lol i've experienced this as well.

[–]PlasmaWhore 2 points3 points ago

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I met a guy recently who uses snus. He claims that he switched to them from chewing because there is no risk of cancer. I don't see how this can be true, but he must have read it or heard it somewhere.

[–]denklckr 4 points5 points ago

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In Sweden, where snus (not chewing tobacco, or "dipping" tobacco) is used by a huge portion of the population, the cancer rate is much lower than you'd think. Snus is much, much safer to use than Grizzly, Skoal, Cope, etc.

[–]zootzootswe 6 points7 points ago

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As a swede that has been using Snus regularly (1 pack with 24 pouches every 2 days orso) for about 4 years now I have read a shitload about Snus and its risks in particular.

The only form of cancer that has a higher rate in users of Snus is Pancriotic Cancer (+67%), which has an annual death rate of 1100 in Sweden (pop. 9 mil). There are other things related to the nicotine itself as well, such as a higher rate of getting Methabolic Syndrome(is this really the english term for it? cba to look it up) or arteriosclerosis (this i had to look up, thank you www.tyda.se ). There is no proof of Snus raising the risk of for instance oral cancer.

I'm actually just enjoying my ritualistic morning Snus, the morning Snus is the best.

TL;DR: Snus is a LOT more healthy than cigarettes, cigars, hookahs, chewing tobacco, cigarillos or smoking the pipe.

[–]jotch 2 points3 points ago

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I do snus too, as it recently has started selling around here. Camel started handing out trial packs for free at local smoke shops and convenience stores and that got me in to it. I used to do Skoal Citrus pouches when I hunted, but not anymore. Reading this article made me feel better about doing Snus, but do you have any more links regarding snus?

[–]panachelove 4 points5 points ago

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as an occasional smoker but someone who's never chewed, I just want to say how bizarre it sounds to have the logic of "this chew is making my mouth sore, i'll switch to a different part of my mouth"

[–]RugerRedhawk 5 points6 points ago

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As a former smoker, I can recall a bizarre thought I previously had... "I have strep throat, and a cough, and it's 20 degrees out... I think I'll step outside and have a smoke".

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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This is normal dude. Snus is considerably different than 'dip'. After a few weeks of use your lip becomes "pig skinned" and you don't get sore or what not. Please don't think that snus is the same as dip or chew.

What kind of snus are you using? The camel crap? there is amazing stuff from sweden that you can order which is most likely a hell of a lot less toxic than anything that American tobacco companies put out.

[–]an800lbgorilla 3 points4 points ago

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What makes you say American Snus is "more toxic" than Swedish Snus?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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Mainly the fact that the Swedes have been doing this for a long time and their cancer rate is relatively low for the amount of users that it has. In my opinion I'd rather trust their snus with their track record rather than the American companies that have been putting whatever they can sneak past the FDA into their product without us noticing.

Swedish Snus This has been a good source for acquiring other brands than are offered in the US. The pouches are bigger and the taste is less candy like, but once you get used to them it is hard to go back. If you would like to try some of theirs PM me and I'll suggest some good brands/flavors that you might like.

[–]Polymathic 2 points3 points ago

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Swedish law also requires snus makers to post ingredients on the container, and they have to be approved as food additives. In the U.S. one can figure out some of what's in tobacco products but you have no real way to know.

[–]Monty_Brogan 49 points50 points ago

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Shits a lot tougher to quit than cigarettes, IMO.

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points ago

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In an odd way, this could have been a blessing in disguise. I had no intentions of 'getting into' chewing tobacco. However, experimentation COULD have led to an addiction. Now, I'll never dip again.

[–]tehjamez 49 points50 points ago

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When I dip you dip,... just like that...

[–]BlackRaspberries 11 points12 points ago

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You put your hand upon my hip...

[–]catinahat1 8 points9 points ago

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When I dip you dip we dip

Edit: Jeez, that was worse than i remembered it...

[–]cptnopants 1 point2 points ago

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i love grooveshark. good to see other people use it to share music too :)

[–]jeremybryce 17 points18 points ago

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Don't diminish my struggle!

[–]ryanasimov 14 points15 points ago

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Totally agree about the difficulty in quitting, but I'm a success story. Dipped for 21 years straight, then quit cold turkey 4 years ago. Not one relapse and can honestly say that I don't even think about dip anymore, period.

I've failed at many things in life, but somehow I was able to quit dip. Oh, little detail... my dipping was in total secrecy from my family, friends, even wife. I was quite the sneak. Since nobody knew I dipped, I couldn't rely on anyone for support when the cravings were at their worst (the first few weeks of quitting).

[–]ViP_Suite 6 points7 points ago

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I am also a success story so far. I quit cold turkey before a recent birthday after having a conversation with my cousin who smokes. He was admitting that he is addicted to cigarettes and asked me if I though I was addicted to the chew. Not wanting to admit to it, I said no. A couple days later, I thought to myself if I really was addicted and lying to myself or could I actually quit. Being reluctant to quit, I told myself - "Let's see how long I can go before dipping." I actually kept a spare pack in my pocket in case I got the urge.

NOTE: I was a HEAVY user - Once in the morning. Once after every meal. And whenever I was bored/stressed/drunk/hanging with fellow chewers/etc.

Nowadays - that shit actually grosses me out just at the thought of dipping. It even smells worse than what I remember.

The biggest surprise I experienced (only a month after quitting) - A friend who is a long time chewer (10+ years) ran out of his usual stuff and could not get any tobacco in his rural living area and asked me to get a box (yes, an entire box) for when I visit. While pulling up to the drive way, he rushed to the passenger side door - tore open the box like a crazed dope addict and dipped as fast as he could.

tl;dr - Very heavy tobacco user, quit cold turkey - witnessed how much of a hold it can have on a person. Very proud to be off and still going strong!

[–]Monty_Brogan 5 points6 points ago

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I see so much of myself in your words, holy shit.

[–]Monty_Brogan 2 points3 points ago

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Congrats. I haven't had a cigarette in over three years, I'm totally over that, but I've been dipping pretty regularly the last 2 years. I know I need to quit. When you can dip anywhere you want it just makes it that much harder to quit.

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[–]murphymurphy 5 points6 points ago

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I never knew this many redditors dipped. Maybe we can get a subreddit started for support of quitting? Christ, I've tried too many times to count.

[–]icarrymyhk 2 points3 points ago

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Its evi has hell but i love it. Fuckkk.

[–]ryanasimov 1 point2 points ago* 

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I constantly reminded myself that the day would come when I would have my last dip. Would it be voluntarily and with my secret intact? Or would it be when I got cancer and had to admit my use to everyone I'd hid it from? So basically fear, vanity, and shame. Powerful motivators. :)

[–]alettuce 10 points11 points ago

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I wouldn't know, but quitting cigarettes was pretty fucking hard.

[–]Dynha42 3 points4 points ago

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First day on the nicotine patch for me. I smoked from age 12 to well today at 25. I quit for 3 months about a year ago, but gave in again. This time is different. I will never smoke cigs again.

[–]alettuce 7 points8 points ago

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I have a couple of tips, not that you asked. Set aside a box-something nicer than a shoebox if you have it at hand-and put in it the cash you would have spent that day on cigarettes, every single day. It feels great. You can spend it however you like at the end of the month.

Also, find a candy or mint or something with a very strong flavor. I used super sour candies, but lots of other things would work. When you are craving a cig, it kind of knocks the taste for that out of your mouth. Allow yourself unlimited numbers of whatever this thing is. Helped me.

[–]Cryptic0677 2 points3 points ago

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All nicotine is super addictive, but because a can usually has the same amount of nicotine as 3 packs of cigarettes, the amount per use is much higher. That's why you usually feel a much bigger buzz the first time you dip as opposed to smoking.

[–]Jonnywest 4 points5 points ago

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I have been addicted to both. Chew was harder for me to give up, mostly because cigarettes fuck with your lungs pretty quickly while chew didnt leave me feeling like shit after prolonged use.

[–]kDubya 6 points7 points ago

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Confirmed. Dipping is much easier to hide from people who care, too.

[–]jbdontbeanass 25 points26 points ago

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I live in Texas, and even here, dipping/chewing is kinda considered "redneck." Would you consider yourself a redneck?

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points ago

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ha.. I have redneck roots. One side of my fam is now seventh generation Oregonians, from small-town Oregon; and ALL the guys have chewed since they were teenagers. It was like a right-of-passage when growing up for them to start chewing.

Me a redneck? Definitely not, I'm closer to a hippy than a redneck.

[–]nickehl 1 point2 points ago

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Which small town, if you don't mind my asking? I'm just a fellow Oregon brother from a small town (no dipping here, though most of my friends in high school did it).

[–]xTravis_Bicklex 183 points184 points ago

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I read this with a chew in my mouth. I am now going to hide this post and attempt to forget it.

[–][deleted] 115 points116 points ago

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Ha, it's a crap-shoot man. I mean, some people can dip their whole lives and be just fine. Others can dip for 20 years and no longer have a lower jaw.

[–]nailz1000 166 points167 points ago

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Why in the living fuck would you even attempt to play those odds?

[–]treeforface 72 points73 points ago

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Especially when the payoff is:

[I] occasionally enjoyed the buzz it produced.

[–]sideboje 36 points37 points ago

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Gambling addiction is hard to overcome.

[–]portablebiscuit 37 points38 points ago

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You bet your ass it is.

[–]sideboje 23 points24 points ago

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What are the odds?

[–]hookedupphat 21 points22 points ago

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Doesn't matter. I'll take them.

[–]Tokacheif 6 points7 points ago

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Double or nothing!

[–]Jeffreylloyd 6 points7 points ago

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Let it ride!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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I want a do-over!

[–]SDBred619 1 point2 points ago

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Never tell me the odds, kid.

[–]phsboggs 3 points4 points ago

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Double down!

[–][deleted] 96 points97 points ago

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That's a good fucking question.

[–]Scarker 10 points11 points ago

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Well anyways, thanks for sharing this lesson so none of us have to answer that.

[–]kungpaobeef 1 point2 points ago

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nicotine feelz gud

[–]videogamechamp 1 point2 points ago

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Boredom. Everyone dies eventually.

[–]xSiNNx 2 points3 points ago

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It's just like smoking... It totally fucks some people up, and then there are people like my great grandmother that smoked until she died at like 86 and she was still mobile and walking to get her groceries and stuff at that age.

[–]chall85 3 points4 points ago

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Her long life probably has a lot to do with that walking and those groceries she was carrying.

[–]cereal1 1 point2 points ago

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My great-grandfather smoked tobacco through an unfiltered pipe from the time he woke up until he went to sleep. He lived to be 92 years old. One day his heart just stopped when he was trying to take off his pants and get into bed; with his nightly pipe in his mouth.

[–]HumpingDog 9 points10 points ago

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That's why I stick with cocaine.

[–]saucercrab 2 points3 points ago

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hell of a drug.

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Ugh, same here. I've been dipping for 4 years, usually about a can every week and a half - 2 weeks. Not a whole lot (big-time dippers finish a can every day!), but enough that it's definitely detrimental to my health. I have gum recession on my lower right gums (it's inevitable if you dip for a long period of time), but it's not huge. Only noticeable if I pull my lip down and look at it, and I don't dip there any longer. Surprising because the one quality people say they like about me are my teeth! Seems like a freak thing that happened to the OP, but still worrisome. Granted he was dipping Grizzly, which I tried one time and it hurt so much that I never took a pinch of the Griz ever again. Grizzly and Kodiak are like fucking knives in your mouth.

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I'm completely ignorant on this subject so would it be possible for you to clarify why one type of dipping tobacco would hurt and another would not? Is it simply the cut of the tobacco, or what?

Sidenote: Don't google "Dipping tobacco" and then click on the fucking Images link. Trust me on this one.

[–]Xiol 12 points13 points ago* 

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Sidenote: Don't google "Dipping tobacco" and then click on the fucking Images link. Trust me on this one.

Great, now I have to do that.

Edit: Actually, the story behind these images is quite a powerful motivator for anyone wanting to quit chewing/dipping tobacco. Link NSFW - GRAPHIC.

[–]kittish 8 points9 points ago

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That is a fantastic set of pictures...

And now I've realized that I am desensitized to pictures of surgeries.

...still don't like movies though.

[–]ra_ta 22 points23 points ago

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There are myths regarding dip that they put fiber glass in the stuff to cut your moth so the nicotine can get to your blood stream, in reality the tobacco in your mouth is just just rough in general on the lining of your gums, when you pull (suck the spit through your teeth) it presses the tobacco firmly on your gums.

Some people think there are some brands (cheaper ones) that are rougher than others, I can't comment on that, I've used only one brand.

I use pouches and they aren't nearly as rough on my gums.

On a related note, I work for big tobacco and I don't advise anyone to start using tobacco, it's terrible for you.

[–]oilandgasdowork 5 points6 points ago

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You should do an AMA.

[–]spinlock 2 points3 points ago

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I don't know about the fiberglass (that one probably is an urban legend) but there are nasty chemicals in dip (like formaldehyde).

[–]BladeTheme 2 points3 points ago

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I use pouches. Daily. I started with longcut for roughly a year, but found myself nervous about super-kansir or whatever dipping gives you. Yeah, shit's addicting as hell. If I consume adderall, alcohol, or cocaine, I normally crush a full tin while enjoying that high. Whacky-Tabacky sigh

[–]doAnAMA 3 points4 points ago

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Do an AMA.

[–]tjw 1 point2 points ago

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in reality the tobacco in your mouth is just just rough in general on the lining of your gums, when you pull (suck the spit through your teeth) it presses the tobacco firmly on your gums.

The crunchy bits that people mistake for "glass" are actually salt crystals.

[–]Almajir 9 points10 points ago

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You're right, you did warn us.

Wow. That's all I can say. I was expecting porn or something, that blew me away

[–]Tokacheif 3 points4 points ago

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Happy Reddit BDAY!

[–]Toglco 7 points8 points ago

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For those that do click, you get to see a guy with his cheek cut away, exposing some of his jaw bone. Interesting little bit of anatomy/modern science.

[–]sloppydrunk 4 points5 points ago

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dear god that was disgusting!

[–]sparo 1 point2 points ago

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Copenhagen regular, Skoal straight/Edge, etc.

[–]Othello 1 point2 points ago

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It probably depends on the cut and the additives. Dipping tobacco != chewing tobacco, it's more like chewing tobacco that has been cut or ground up in advance.

So you have these little bits of tobacco that are individually about the size of a grain of sand rubbing against your mouth all day, and they also add in salts and things to raise the pH, and an alkaline pH can irritate gums and stuff even more.

[–]jockc 4 points5 points ago

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Have you tried SNUS?

[–]meowmix4jo 1 point2 points ago

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What's different about Grizzly? I had never tried dip before, and a friend gave me some Grizzly. It made me feel like shit, and I made a vow to never try it again.

[–]tjw 2 points3 points ago

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What's different about Grizzly?

It's cheap. Very cheap compared to Kodiak which is the market it was targeted to. Prior to a recent major spike in tobacco tax here, it was $1.69/can which was less than half the price of Kodiak. Most users consider it weaker than Kodiak, most users also consider this a good thing.

I think the reason it is so cheap has something to do with it appearing after the big US tobacco settlement was over. I have nothing to back that up though.

[–]SarahC 1 point2 points ago

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I've tried chewin' backy' and it left me feeling dizzy, violently ill, sweating drips, and shivering.

I've tried a few times to get "into" nicotine, but it's hopeless... I just can't get hooked at all - or get the nice feelings people say it gives them. =(

Opiates will have to do I suppose.

[–]corytheboyd 68 points69 points ago

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And yet, Marijuana is illegal. Bravo!

[–]spinlock 20 points21 points ago

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I would love to try pot dip.

[–]crosbyface 5 points6 points ago

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Oh my word.. I've never even dreamed of this but now I'm anxiously awaiting the day,

[–]TheGanjaGuru 10 points11 points ago

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Cook it in the oven at 300 for 10-15 minutes and put it in your mouth.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points ago

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Protip: Let it cool first.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points ago

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Mary Jane.. My one true love.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points ago

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GATEWAY DRUG!!1

[–]Sure16 2 points3 points ago

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What my dad has to say about marijuana being a gateway drug (Which I tend to belive)

Someone doesn't smoke weed then decide to try cocaine. But, someone doesn't just randomly decide to try cocaine one day.

[–]videogamechamp 1 point2 points ago

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People who are going to do cocaine are likely to have the urge in that situation regardless of smoking weed or not. However, smoking weed, especially while it is illegal, lets you into that scene and raises your chances of running into cocaine or something else. I wish I was at home with my links, but there was a recent study that suggested marijuana could be a reverse gateway drug, as in people who smoke are less likely to try something else.

[–]eskimow 1 point2 points ago

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[–]Akamaru 2 points3 points ago

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Yeah, it really does put things in perspective. I'd rather have a bad trip than thousands of dollars worth of periodontal work.

[–]mightneedeval 18 points19 points ago

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hey, how much did the procedure cost? did insurance cover it?

[–]Bubba-Booey 30 points31 points ago

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So what did the doctor say? This can't be typical for tobacco chewers. Did you have an allergic reaction or something?

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points ago

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My hypothesis, which the periodontist affirmed, is that this was a combination of the thinner gum line in the front of your mouth (most users chew on the side of their mouth) and the fact that I had never dipped in that area before. Suddenly, chewing there a few times a day caused the damage within just three days.

[–]pre_owned_fleshlight 11 points12 points ago

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Sunflower seeds

[–]skwigger 10 points11 points ago

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are you saying sunflower seeds have the same effect?

[–]commongiga 16 points17 points ago

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I really hope not. I'm eating them right now.

[–]daybreaker 3 points4 points ago

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I am too. I will eat a pack of the Frito-Lay 2/$1 in a few hours. Then eat the second pack about 3 days later, because it takes that long for my tongue and cheeks to not feel sore.

But damn they are tasty.

[–]finallymadeanaccount 4 points5 points ago

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Pound them into powder with a mortar and pestle and eat 'em by the spoonful.

[–]CitizenPremier 4 points5 points ago

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I cook them under a spoon and inject them into my retinas.

[–]skwigger 2 points3 points ago

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Yeah, I eat them every day on my way home from work. What's your favorite flavor?

[–]ryeguy 69 points70 points ago

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Sunflower flavor.

[–]highpixels 9 points10 points ago

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BABY sunflowers, you murderer!

[–]skwigger 3 points4 points ago

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you don't know what you're missing. BIGS buffalo wings are pretty damn good, and David Jalapeno salsa.

[–]meowmix4jo 1 point2 points ago

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Jalapeno Salsa is the best thing ever.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Do you mean salt?

[–]arronsky 11 points12 points ago

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Yowza, looked up what the procedure is like and found this guy's story... NSFL

http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Had-A-Gum-Graft/204

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points ago

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I don't think I'm going to click that right now.. but have an upvote!

[–]Super_Kapowzler 9 points10 points ago

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I am on month-9 of cold turkey off marblites, pack/day/20yrs.
I remember the chew-days, having a can of KODIAK, on ice, in the cooler, back two decades, in the days of sweltering-heat fieldwork. "Talking to the Bear!", I'd announce over the radio, throwing in a pinch of HEAVAN in, after a cold can of Mt. Dew.

"Chew", as it is around here, was way more hideable, since I was going to college at the time. I used to brush my lower gums and inner lips to scrape the shit out, but this chick I was dating would always say "You have the BEST tasting lips!" No shit. She used to lick/bite the shit, and I knew we would never marry because I'd have to tell her she was "all about the BEAR" and shit.

I remember, during the chew-days, I ran into some kid whom had a dip in his front-upper lip, and I was all like "Holy shit dude!", but he said "Man, go Uptown, it's a whole new world." Holy shit he wasn't kidding.

I don't know if Kodiak is around, I used to see 'em on NASCAR, those days were the shit. Word.

[–]poisenloaf 6 points7 points ago

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A+++ would read again!

[–]StoneG 14 points15 points ago

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Please tell me what's good about dip.

I've never tried it, but I was a smoker for 10+ years. My friends would chew every once and a while, but I thought it was gross because they spit a lot, had foul breath and brown/yellow teeth.

I'm not gonna run out and by some.... just curious. TIA.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points ago* 

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It's the exact same reason people smoke cigs, it gives you a buzz. It's a way different buzz though. Cigs you feel more through your body while dip is more in the head. It's hard to explain, it just gets you buzzed. People like to alter their state of mind... Amirite?

edit: the drugs!

[–]jeremybryce 16 points17 points ago

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I smoked for over 10 years and I didn't get a buzz. I would only get a buzz if I hadn't had one in over a day for some reason and even then it was extremely light or when I was 17 when I had just started.

I smoked because it was something to do... if that makes sense. And it goes great with beer.

[–]RickS2 22 points23 points ago* 

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Are you sure you didn't smoke because you were addicted to nicotine?

[–]MrGravy 8 points9 points ago

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And it goes great with beer.

Why I still haven't quit. IPA's and sweet tobaccy treats will be the death of me.

[–]osmun 6 points7 points ago

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god yes. I didn't smoke for three weeks. I thought 'cool, I'm gonna drink tonight". There goes a pack of cigs in to my lungs. Right back to the habit.

FUCKKKK

[–]LibraryKrystal 4 points5 points ago

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I have done this too. I quit over a year ago, but drinking and driving (never at the same time, thank you) are the two things that still make me want a cig like nothing else.

[–]osmun 5 points6 points ago

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God dammit.

Post-rock, a car, and a cigarette is one of the best combinations in the world.

Fuck.

[–]KoNP 1 point2 points ago

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Back before they were banned, I smoked a 16mg ciggie once. Oh. Dear. God. Most unpleasant experience EVER. I got a fucking buzz alright. I had to hold onto something bolted down for support whilst I negotiated with my stomach in an appeal to get it to stay where it was.

Blegh. Even thinking about it now nauseates me.

[–]StoneG 2 points3 points ago

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youarerite. So it's like a giant head rush. Okay, thanks.

[–]SungTongs 1 point2 points ago

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When you just start dipping, that's one of the reasons you do it. Once you get into the habit, you are just feeding the addiction... And man does it feel good to dip when you haven't dipped for a day. I love dipping but I gotta quit, shit gets more and more addictive as time goes by.

I think the best part of smoking and dipping is that it just gives you something to do when your just standing there talking to your friends, when your drinking a beer, when your playing poker, just about anything goes good with nicotine :)

Btw, smoking while rolling balls is fucking the greatest feeling ever.

[–]RugerRedhawk 4 points5 points ago

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Snus is the ultimate evil. Get a nice dose of nicotine without having to spit.

[–]StoneG 1 point2 points ago

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Hmmm, I never heard of that stuff before. I read the wiki article and putting 'Camal Snus' in your mouth has a weird connotation.

[–]Cryptic0677 1 point2 points ago

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The buzz is the first thing you notice, enough to make you dizzy the first few times, much stronger than a cigarette. It never hurt my lungs, never had a problem breathing because of it. I could also sit and slowly absorb nicotine over a half hour or so while studying or something.

[–]beansbeaner 2 points3 points ago

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your friend didn't take care of his/her mouth. Dip is better because #1 it doesn't bother other people. After all its just spit and not a foul odor #2 it doesnt make your clothes smell #3 easy to do anywhere #4 cheaper #5 much much more nicotine. It SO hard to quit tho.

[–]Rinascita 28 points29 points ago

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You ever have a friend who spits his brown, disgusting dip slop into soda cans and leaves them about? Yeah, that bothers other people.

[–]FriesWithThat 5 points6 points ago

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Still, I've never heard of anyone dying from second-hand spit.

[–]dragonladywithcats 3 points4 points ago

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It tastes fucking disgusting.

It was the middle of the night, I was thirsty, and there was a bottle by the bed. Boy, did I regret not turning the fucking light on.

[–]beansbeaner 3 points4 points ago

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I always spit in to bottles and I never leave them about anyone elses place. thats just proper dip etiquette

[–]jts8820 8 points9 points ago

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dipiquette?

[–]Mixophiliac 6 points7 points ago

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Spitting grosses me out far worse than smoke does. Especially brown slimy spit.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points ago

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it doesn't bother other people. After all its just spit and not a foul odor

No, it just has a different type of foul odor. Yes, it does stink, and stink horribly. But I suppose the advantage is that you only stink while doing it, while a smoker just always stinks.

[–]MrGravy 6 points7 points ago

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In response to numero uno, I've heard plenty of people bitch when someone starts dippin' in a styrofoam cup with Wintergreen Grizzly at the office. This is Kentucky though so those people are quickly made fun of.

[–]LibraryKrystal 3 points4 points ago

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A fellow sitting next to me on a flight once dipped and kept spitting/drooling into a clear plastic cup. It was so disgusting (visuals and smell) that I had to insist he stop. Luckily he did... I was close to ralphing.

[–]smogeblot 6 points7 points ago

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One time, at a party at a university in the south, I saw two rednecks giving this drunk black hipster dude his first taste of dip. It took him a few minutes to start projectile vomiting his Natty Light dinner.

[–]em_son 1 point2 points ago

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I hate the commercials for Natty Light. Most annoying shit ever.

[–]Rinascita 7 points8 points ago

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I love how the majority of people replying to this who admit they dip all try to affirm how little they use it in comparison to "heavy use" dippers.

Do whatever you want to yourselves, I'm all for it, but you just read a description where after three days use, a dipper had to have a skin graft in his MOUTH! FFS!

[–]rosstifer 4 points5 points ago* 

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I had to sign in (from work) to post this. My friend's dad has been chewing since he was a teenager. He told us once: "It takes a big man to quit chewing, it takes an even bigger man to face lip cancer."

He also duct taped his nutsack back together after a motorcycle crash one time. He is legendary.

Edit: spelling

[–]OneSalientOversight 2 points3 points ago

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How can you make a phone call Mr Anderson when you can't... speak?

[–]finallymadeanaccount 5 points6 points ago

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Sucks to be chew.

[–]chocobot 3 points4 points ago

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for the love of god dont GIS "skin graft"!

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[–]em_son 1 point2 points ago

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I will never be able to look at a cheese grater the same way again.

[–]antisocialmedic 3 points4 points ago

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Pics?

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points ago

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Not supposed to pull my lower lip back for a week. Considering the procedure was yesterday, I don't think this would be a good idea..

[–]antisocialmedic 1 point2 points ago

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Gotcha, i just figured it was worth a shot.

[–]international_fuck 3 points4 points ago

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i dip 1-2x a day

3 years

can every 2-3 weeks

am scared shitless now

[–]willis77 8 points9 points ago

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The cancer didn't scare you, but gum inflammation does?

[–]djdes 5 points6 points ago

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Those who crave instant gratification are also more affected by instant consequences. I am guilty of this as well.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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ha, 2-3 weeks isn't bad at all for a can though. My cousin goes through one every 2-3 days.. Just be careful, weeks can translate to days pretty quick with this shit.

[–]ThiefOfDens 3 points4 points ago

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Didn't it burn like fuck to keep dipping in that same spot? I much prefer to use actual chew, rather than dip, because the dip tends to irritate the shit out of my gums after a while. That never happens with the inside of my cheek.

Oh, and I brush my teeth after every time I chew. With baking soda, to keep 'em white. So far, so good.

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Sounds like you're a responsible dipper, ha. It started to burn like hell when I dipped too much in the same spot, which caused me to transfer it to the front gum, which caused the carnage.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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I chewed in my front gum for years, never any problems. The trick is to chew in the middle, chew off to the side, then to the other side. You gotta even out the wear, dude.

[–]UnderwaterJones 3 points4 points ago

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I've been dipping damn near every day since I turned 18 (I'm 26), a couple months off here and there, but I'm up to at least a tin (can) a day and have been partaking at that frequency for several years. Mostly Grizzly or similar cheap stuff. I also haven't been to the dentist in just over 3 years, I guess just because I'm embarrassed about it. I now kindly request that fellow Redditors shame me into quitting and visiting the dentist, by whatever means necessary. Thank you.

[–]haneliz 6 points7 points ago

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If I see you in public dipping, I guarantee no matter how attractive you are, I will be instantly turned off.

That shit is nasty.

[–]easyantic 5 points6 points ago

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It doesn't matter. Your teeth are completely fucked. Don't bother smiling, ever. Don't eat or drink anything too hot or cold. When the horrible pain begins of the teeth being rotten to the root, you will have to get them all pulled and spend quite a bit of time recovering. Then you get to gum your food like an old man until your dentures are ready. Then you get dentures.

Good luck with that.

[–]Nessie 3 points4 points ago

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In other words, not three days.

[–]fintheman 3 points4 points ago

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I have permanent damage from dipping in the bottom/front area of my mouth.

I only dipped for 2 years.

http://imgur.com/4SqiW

[–]aerosquid 4 points5 points ago

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i watched my wife's grandfather battle throat/jaw cancer from chewing. they removed pieces of him for a couple years until there was no jaw and little throat left. i'm no saint, i smoked for years and even dipped a couple times as a youth. watching him die like that, slowly in agony scared the shit out of me.

[–]SkimMilk 5 points6 points ago

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I tend to revolve throughout various brands. I do enjoy Grizzly Wintergreen but only when I'm trying to save money, I was big on Copenhagen but now I find it too salty, but my all time favorite is any Skoal flavor (particularly Mint).

Anyways, I thought I'd share my story about my first time dipping in high school. It was the morning after a pretty heavy night of drinking, we partied at my house that night and everyone had left except for two friends. Well one of them was pretty big on dipping and my other friend and I had never tried it. So after we made some pretty scrumptious strawberry shakes for breakfast, we thought it'd be a good idea to each pack in a huge frickin dip of Grizzly Wintergreen. After a couple of minutes of enjoying an intense buzz that was like no other, I started to not feel so good. It came so quickly, but I managed to grab the nearest garbage can and proceeded to barf strawberry shake all over the place. It tasted exactly the same coming up as it did going down. My other friend who had never dipped before was laughing his ass off and making fun of me, but karma is a bitch because not 3 minutes later he projectile vomited all over my bathroom. My veteran dipper friend was just like "I thought this might not be a good idea"...I stayed away from dip for quite a while after that experience ha!

TLDR; My friend and I barfed everywhere after our first time dipping.

[–]HailCorduroy 5 points6 points ago

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I've seen people get pale before getting sick, but a friend of mine was dipping Grizzly one time and turned green. I mean Wicked Witch from the Wizard of Oz green. I've never seen a live human turn that color. And yes, it was followed shortly by vomiting.

[–]sparo 1 point2 points ago

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Even Skoal Berry blend? Tastes like cough syrup.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Having shared a similar experience with my buddies, this made me laugh out loud.

[–]Icouldbeanyone 2 points3 points ago

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Did the process hurt? I only ask because I need a skin graft done on my lower front gum line from my 1st orthodontic treatment from where my teeth moved up. I am currently waiting until my invisalign is done before getting the procedure.

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It didn't hurt much at all because they inject a lot of anesthesia beforehand. The needle first going into the roof of the mouth is an odd sensation though. Basically, pain isn't a problem; but the whole process of them working on you with your mouth wide open for an hour gets a little intense. Also, if you start to feel ANYTHING (I did towards the end) just tell the doc and they'll put a bit more anesthesia in there before continuing. Also, ask for better drugs than what they initially give you, if you're into that sort of thing :) Good luck!

[–]Nopis10 1 point2 points ago

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Slightly off topic but what do you think of the invisalign. My teeth are crooked on the bottom(smashed together at the front) but it was never bad enough for me to "need" braces. Looking back though I wish I would've had them. Definitely a big self-conscious thing for me and I doubt it's healthy for my teeth to be smashed so closely. I like the idea of invisalign but I've always worried it wouldn't do the job.

[–]Icouldbeanyone 2 points3 points ago

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I love it. I went through the fun time of regular braces when I was teenager and never wore my retainer. These are so much better obviously because of no wires etc... Every two weeks I put in a new aligner, I go there every 6 weeks and spend 15 minutes tops and I'm out the door with three more.

My bottom was crowded, 1 back, 2 behind/infront and top row was all jacked up (post braces) and I can see results after starting in February. Process for me is taking 1 year, I should be done with my bottom row in 12 weeks. It costs a lot but well worth it on a self conscious level, you can add guilt on top of that for me! ;)

PS: You feel minor pain for 2-3 days, the pain level is less than the pain level you would receive with normal braces.

[–]Nopis10 1 point2 points ago

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awesome, thanks so much! I think when I finally get a job with dental benefits I'll be getting these. I hate my teeth and am conscious of them when I smile. When I look in the mirror my smile is ok but if I open my mouth any wider where you can see my bottom teeth you can see just how bad they are. Do you leave them in the whole time or do you take them out to eat? I'd guess it's just like a retainer where if you don't keep them in all the time or most of the time they don't work as well as they should but what kind of flexibility do you have?

[–]ChrisMcKormick 2 points3 points ago

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Nicotine's got me by the balls. It's about time somebody made some irremovable Pavlovian device like a shock collar that gives you a jolt anytime your blood nicotine content surpasses a certain level.

Alls I know is, I got food-poisoning from a hamburger once and quit THEM cold-turkey for like 2 years.

[–]mwave1239 2 points3 points ago

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Wow. I've chewed since I was 16 - I'm 30 now. For the past 10 years I've had 1 can a day, every day. My gums have barely receded. Am I just lucky as hell?

[–]kolossal 2 points3 points ago

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What a nasty habit.

[–]pagetm 2 points3 points ago

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I had the same graft but for different reasons. It was also taken from the roof of my mouth and placed near some front teeth, unfortunately the graft did not take. I wish you good luck with it, I hope it works for you. It was a long time ago so I don't remember if there was a reason why it didn't take, just be sure to follow any instructions they gave you for care.

[–]Broodcast 2 points3 points ago

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I'm reminded of a demotivational poster I saw once: "The purpose of your life may be to serve as a warning to others."

Thanks!

[–]HerrKrabbemann 1 point2 points ago

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Want to see some disgusting pictures?

Just google skin graft and go to image search.

shudder

[–]xecosine 1 point2 points ago

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Man... I gotta stop dipping.

You're going to be alright though, right?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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hahah.. Confirmation bias only hides the real problems man! I don't know, dips are enjoyable, the buzz is nice... If you don't get addicted I don't see a problem.. But when fully addicted, most people tend to say 'fuck it' and that's that... Hello cancer! (sometimes)

[–]Ironguard 1 point2 points ago

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You just have weak gums. Sorry about your luck.

[–]drakkar4 1 point2 points ago

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Northeasterner here... I've never known or seen anyone chew in my life.

[–]burntfrog 1 point2 points ago* 

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I went approx. 4 years with having a dip in my bottom lip, pretty much the entire work day (driving trucks). I never saw any signs of damage. I'm guessing some sort of reaction to the chew.

EDIT: I should add this worked out to about 5 cans/week. =\

[–]clydetheorangutan 1 point2 points ago

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i chew a can of grizzly a day and have gums intact still.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Holy crap! Hope you're doin' alright... and I guess you aren't gonna try it again?

[–]bobcrotch 1 point2 points ago

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Little known fact about chewing tobacco: If you maintain healthy dental hygiene (brush twice daily, floss at least once a day, use a mouth wash) and move it around a lot (not using the same spot every time) your chances for such a thing to happen is greatly reduced. I chewed copenahgen snuff every for almost 10 years and I have perfect teeth and healthy gums.

Maybe it's just the perfect Viking genes.

[–]Raticide 1 point2 points ago

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I didn't know people really did chew tobacco.

[–]haneliz 1 point2 points ago

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Just wanted to tell you that whenever I see someone dipping in public, it's absolutely disgusting. :( I don't want to see anyone spitting out black rancid shit into a mountain dew bottle.

Did you ever dip in public or only in the private of your own home? What'd you spit into?

Are you going to go back to dipping?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Never really dipped in public, unless I was in a spot that didn't require spitting into a bottle; that is a nasty sight. I'll never dip again. I didn't that much to begin with, so it's not much of a loss to me.

[–]shalmac 1 point2 points ago

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When I told my dentist I dipped he of course explained re dangers of prolonged use. However he also told me when I do do it that is should alternate which side of my mouth I dipped in and that I should never put it in the front or top gums because the tissue there is softer. But alternating sides allows a bit more time for one side to heal.

[–]thatboyaintright 1 point2 points ago

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Just a point, you weren't using chewing tobacco, you were using dip. Chewing tobacco is the loose leaf stuff you put in your cheek.

[–]donglebutter 1 point2 points ago

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I quit smoking 2 years ago. Now i gotta quit chewing. It never ends.

[–]imabastard 1 point2 points ago

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Well, guess you learned your lesson didn't you. Thanks for making all of us who don't smoke/dip feel much better.

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Not a question but there is this old man who lives in my area and visits schools to talk about the dangers of tobacco. He has no lower jaw, he looks like Raziel from fucking Soul Reaver. You're right, that shit is evil.

[–]ramp_tram 1 point2 points ago

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"I've got a great idea: What if I shove fiberglass fibers and shit known to cause cancer directly up against my gums?"

[–]matholio 1 point2 points ago

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what the fuck are you talking about?

[–]a_fleeting_glimpse 1 point2 points ago

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Oh god, just the thought of the site of carrying around my "dip" coke bottle full of that spit and black... gook... makes me want to gag. I tell ya man, there are few things worse than going to take a swig of what you THINK is Coke, only to find out it's a hellish mixture of dip spit and flat soda. I shiver at the thought.

Which caused me to go to cigs... I'm a pack-a-day, it's not any better than dipping but it's less disgusting. Sort of, I guess.